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Dan Peek’s life plus OPEN LETTER TO PAUL MCCARTNEY about Dan Peek

Dan Peek -All Things Are Possible

Dan Peek Testimony

America – Lonely People

Dan Peek

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dan Peek
Dan Peek on TopPop 1972.png

Peek performs on the AVRO show TopPop in 1972.
Background information
Birth name Daniel Milton Peek
Born November 1, 1950
Panama City, Florida
Died July 24, 2011 (aged 60)
Farmington, Missouri
Genres Folk rock, soft rock, country rock, contemporary Christian
Instruments Vocals, guitars, bass, keyboards, harmonica
Years active 1969-2011
Labels Warner Bros., Lamb & Lion
Associated acts America
Website danpeek.com

Daniel MiltonDanPeek (November 1, 1950 – July 24, 2011)[1] was a musician best known as a member of the folk rock band America from 1970 to 1977, together with Gerry Beckleyand Dewey Bunnell. He was also a “pioneer in contemporary Christian music“.[2][3]

Biography[edit]

Peek was born in Panama City, Florida[1] on November 1, 1950 while his father was in the U.S. Air Force.

When Peek was a young boy, he suffered from rheumatoid arthritis and had to be hospitalized for weeks 100 miles (160 km) away from the family home; his parents could only visit occasionally. Peek remembered this experience when, about a year before he died, he decided to dispose of five of his vintage guitars. Because the Ronald McDonald Houses exist to provide housing for families of hospitalized children close to hospitals around the United States and the world, Peek donated these five guitars to the San Diego house, which were subsequently sold to a collector, resulting in a $50,000 donation.[4]

Peek moved to England in 1963 with his family when his father was assigned to a base in London, meeting Dewey Bunnell and Gerry Beckley at London Central High School.[3]

Beginning in 1963, Peek was educated at London Central Elementary High School at Bushey Hall in North London. In 1973 he married Catherine Maberry,[5] with whom he would write a number of songs, including “Lonely People“.[6] He published an autobiography entitled An American Band, based on America’s most successful period, and his own spiritual journey.[7]

America[edit]

Peek contributed lead and backing vocals, guitars, bass, keyboards, and harmonica to their recordings during his tenure in the band. As a member of America, Peek wrote or co-wrote four Top 100 singles: “Don’t Cross the River” (No. 35), “Lonely People” (No. 5), “Woman Tonight” (No. 44), and “Today’s the Day” (No. 23), all of which he also sang lead on. “Lonely People” and “Today’s the Day” also hit No. 1 on the Billboard AC charts.[5]

Peek abused alcohol and other drugs during this period. In 2004 he released an autobiography about that era entitled An American Band: The America Story which was very difficult for him to write because of the bad memories it brought up.[1]

Contemporary Christian music[edit]

Peek left the band shortly after the February 1977 release of the Harbor album. Years of life on the road had taken a toll on him.[7] He renewed his Christian faith and had begun to seek a different artistic direction than Beckley or Bunnell. He went on to sign with Pat Boone‘s Lamb & Lion Records[7] and found modest success as a pioneering artist in the emerging Christianpop music genre.

Peek’s debut solo album, All Things Are Possible was released in 1979. Chris Christian co-wrote, produced, and contributed acoustic guitar and backing vocals on the album. The title track reached the Billboard charts, making the Top 10 in the A/C Billboard chart and number 1 in the Christian charts, becoming one of the earliest contemporary Christian music crossover hits. Another song on the album, “Love Was Just Another Word”, was recorded in Los Angeles and written by Chris Christian and Steve Kipner. Gerry Beckley and Dewey Bunnell contributed the background vocals. This was the last time the three original members of America recorded together.[citation needed] At the22nd Grammy Awards, the album was nominated,[2] losing in the Contemporary Gospel category to The Imperials album Heed the Call. Peek followed All Things Are Possible with Doer of the Word, which hit number 2 in the Christian charts. Gerry Beckley contributed background vocals, which were recorded at Chris Christian’s studio in Los Angeles while Peek was there.[8]

Peek waited five years before releasing a second solo album, 1984’s Doer of the Word. 1986 saw the release of his Electrovoice album, again to the CCM market, which included a remake of “Lonely People”, featuring a very similar lead vocal treatment and overall arrangement to the original America version. He changed some of the song’s lyrics to reflect his Christian faith,[citation needed] for example, the lines “And ride that highway in the sky” and “You never know until you try” became “And give your heart to Jesus Christ”.

Peek spent much of the 1990s in semi-retirement, occasionally recording music at his home in Bodden Town, Grand Cayman Island.[7] He released several solo projects and collaborated with Ken Marvin and Brian Gentry as “Peace” on three albums. In the years before his death, Peek released music via his website. His last musical collaboration was performing lead vocal on a track on the 2011 album Steps on the Water by Etcetera.

Death[edit]

Peek died in his sleep of fibrinous pericarditis on July 24, 2011, at age 60 at his home in Farmington, Missouri.[1][9] His interment was in Farmington’s Zolman Cemetery.

Discography[edit]

Table Key:
CCM – Contemporary Christian Music Chart
BB – Billboard Pop Singles Chart
AC – Billboard Adult Contemporary Chart
CB – Cash Box Singles Chart

Year Title
Album ————————– Single
CCM BB[10] AC[10] CB[11] Comments
1979 All Things Are Possible (album) Produced by Chris Christian
1979 “All Things Are Possible” 1 78 6 95 13 weeks at number 1. Nominated for a Grammy award.
1980 “Ready for Love” 7 Canadian Adult Contemporary Chart
1981 “Divine Lady” 23
1979 On This Christmas Night Various artists
1979 “The Star” Produced by Chris Christian
1984 Doer of the Word (album) Produced by Chris Christian
1984 “Doer of the Word” 2 Backing vocal by Gerry Beckley
1985 “Power and Glory”
1986 Electro Voice (album)
1986 “Lonely People” 2 Remake of Peek’s 1975 hit with America
1986 “Electro Voice” 7
1986 Christmas Greetings Various artists
1986 “Sleep Baby Jesus”
1987 Cross Over (album)
1987 “Cross Over” 13
1988 Best of Dan Peek Compilation
1989 Light of the World[12] With Marvin and Gentry
1997 Peace Peace with Marvin and Gentry
1998 “Summer Rain” Peace with Marvin and Gentry
1999 Bodden Town
2000 Under the Mercy Peace with Marvin and Gentry
2000 “On Wings of Eagles”
2000 Caribbean Christmas Instrumental
2001 Driftin’
2002 Guitar Man
2006 Guitar Man II Digital Internet release
2007 All American Boy Digital Internet release
2012 Greatest Hits Digital Internet release – Compilation
2012 Christian Artists Series: Dan Peek, Vol. 1 Digital Internet release – Compilation
2012 Christian Artists Series: Dan Peek, Vol. 2 Digital Internet release – Compilation
2012 Christian Artists Series: Dan Peek & Friends Digital Internet release – Compilation with Various Artists
2012 Christmas With Dan Peek and Friends Digital Internet release – Compilation with Various Artists

References[edit]

  1. ^ Jump up to:a b c d Lewis, Randy (27 July 2011). “Dan Peek dies at 60; founding member of the band America”. LA Times. Retrieved 27 July 2011.
  2. ^ Jump up to:a b “America singer Dan Peek dies aged 60”. BBC News. July 27, 2011. Retrieved 2011-07-27.
  3. ^ Jump up to:a b “Dan Peek, Co-Founder of America, Dead at 60”. Billboard magazine. July 26, 2011. Retrieved 2012-10-10. Peek was born in Panama City, Fla., to a U.S. Air Force officer father. He moved to England in 1963 when his father was assigned to a base there, meeting Bunnell and Beckley at London Central High School. Peek and Beckley played in a band called The Days, and after Peek left to attend Old Dominion University in Virginia, Bunnell took his place.
  4. Jump up^ “A first for Navy ship: Baby born on board”. The San Diego Union-Tribune. Retrieved 16 September 2015.
  5. ^ Jump up to:a b Margalit Fox (July 26, 2011). “Dan Peek, of the Rock Band America, Dies at 60”. New York Times. Dan Peek, an original member of the rock band America who later forsook the group for a life in Christian music, died on Sunday at his home in Farmington, Mo. He was 60. …
  6. Jump up^ “Lonely People” compositional info, ASCAP. Retrieved August 31, 2011.
  7. ^ Jump up to:a b c d “Dan Peek”. London: Telegraph. July 27, 2011. Retrieved 2011-07-28.
  8. Jump up^ Dan Peek recording Doer of the Word with Gerry Beckley and Chris Christian in LA on YouTube.
  9. Jump up^ Tijs, Andrew (2011-07-26). “Dan Peek of America Dies at 60 – Undercover.fm News”. Undercover.fm. Retrieved 2012-05-01.
  10. ^ Jump up to:a b “– US Billboard Music Charts”. Billboard.com. Retrieved 2011-07-27.
  11. Jump up^ “US Cash Box Charts”. CashBoxMagazine.com. Retrieved 2011-07-27.
  12. Jump up^ “Marvin & Gentry with Dan Peek – Light of the World – Amazon.com Music”. amazon.com. Retrieved 16 September 2015.

External links[edit]

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Francis and Edith Schaeffer pictured below:

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Dan and Catherine Peek wedding day

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Francis Schaeffer

Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

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May 2, 2016

Paul McCartney

Dear Paul,

I so enjoyed the concert April 30th in Little Rock and you played one of my favorite Beatles songs ELEANOR RIGBY because it takes a long hard look at the loneliness felt by so many people in the world today. Another band also captured that same feel in one of their songs and it happened to be produced by your old friend GEORGE MARTIN who you also took time to recognize at the concert. The song is LONELY PEOPLE by the band AMERICA and it was written by Dan and Catherine Peek. Let’s take a look first at the lyrics of ELEANOR RIGBY:

Ah look at all the lonely people
Ah look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby, picks up the rice
In the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
Waits at the window, wearing the face
That she keeps in a jar by the door
Who is it for
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?
Father McKenzie, writing the words
Of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near
Look at him working, darning his socks
In the night when there’s nobody there
What does he care
All the lonely people
Where do they all come from?
All the lonely people
Where do they all belong?
Ah look at all the lonely people
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Now let’s examine the second to last sentence in the song: WHERE DO THEY ALL BELONG? What did the Beatles find the answer to that question was after all their searching in the 1960’s? Here is Francis Schaeffer’s analysis of the Beatles search:
This record,  Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, became the rallying cry for young people throughout the world. It expressed the essence of their lives, thoughts and their feelings. 

Later came psychedelic rock, an attempt to find this experience without drugs. The younger people and the older ones tried drug taking but then turned to the eastern religions. Both drugs and the eastern religions seek truth inside one’s own head, a negation of reason. The central reason of the popularity of eastern religions in the west is a hope for a nonrational meaning to life and values….

Then the Beatles gradually came home. The last thing we find them doing is the YELLOW SUBMARINE. I sure a lot of parents thought this is much better than the old hard rock, but I thought it was a very sad thing because it really wasn’t a children’s story at all, but what it was in fact was a romantic statement and the fact is that is all there is. Just the same as [Ingmar] Bergman after he makes the movie SILENCE [1963] then he makes a comedy [ALL THESE WOMEN in 1964]. It is the same as Picasso when he pictures his child as a clown [Paul in a Clown Suit, 1924]. So we find the Beatles making the YELLOW SUBMARINE, but there is something more to it than this because Erich Segal made his reputation by writing the script for the movie version of YELLOW SUBMARINE and then he went on and wrote LOVE STORY. So what we have done is we have come around in a big circle. There was the destruction of the romantic. Students in the 1960’s said we are tired of the romantic of giving us optimistic statements with no sufficient base.

So the Beatles destroyed that and then they went through these various trips into non-reason but when they came out they had nothing left but the romantic. This is the tragedy of the young people starting with Berkeley in 1964. How right they were in saying we have largely a plastic culture.    This is something the church should have been saying. These students said give us reality. Then the students tried those trips and they weren’t trips based on reality but they were separated from reason. It was trying to find answers in one’s own head whether it was the drug  trip or the Eastern Religion trip. Then they came around in a big circle and what do we find–we end up with Segal’s LOVE STORY, just the romantic thing as one can imagine but with no adequate base at all, yet giving us a lovely romantic answer, which just like the YELLOW SUBMARINE is very, very sad because the Beatles and young people WERE GIVING UP THE SEARCH and just accepting something like this. 

Now let’s turn to the song LONELY PEOPLE by the band AMERICA but let’s look at the later Christian version of the song written by  Dan and Catherine Peek and they were the original writers of the original song. However, the original song did not have the answer to loneliness in it, but they found the answers to the big questions in life when they found Christ. Here is that Christian version of the song:

This is for all the lonely people
Thinkin’ that life has passed them by
Don’t give up until you drink from the silver cup
And give your heart to Jesus Christ

This is for all the single people
Thinkin’ that love has left them dry
Don’t give up until you drink from the silver cup
And give your heart to Jesus Christ

Well, He’s on his way
He’s coming back someday
He’s coming back to take us home

This is for all the lonely people
Thinkin’ that life has passed them by
Don’t give up until you drink from the silver cup
He’ll never take you down or He’ll never give you up
But you’ll never know until you try

Actually the answer to find meaning in life is found in putting your faith and trust in Jesus Christ. The Bible is true from cover to cover and can be trusted. Here are some of the posts I have done in the past on the subject and if you like you could just google these subjects: 1. The Babylonian Chronicleof Nebuchadnezzars Siege of Jerusalem, 2. Hezekiah’s Siloam Tunnel Inscription.13. The Pilate Inscription14. Caiaphas Ossuary14 B Pontius Pilate Part 214c. Three greatest American Archaeologists moved to accept Bible’s accuracy through archaeology.

Dan Peek, of the Rock Band America, Dies at 60

“We wanted to set ourselves apart and not be seen as English guys trying to do American music, but instead accentuate that we were an American band,” Mr. Peek told The Jerusalem Post last year.

The group’s self-titled debut album was released in Britain in 1971 and in the United States by Warner Brothers the next year.

The band won a Grammy Award in 1973 as best new artist. A string of successful albums followed, including “Homecoming,” “Holiday,” “Hearts” and “Hideaway.” Many were produced by George Martin, who produced many of the Beatles’ records.

As Mr. Peek later recalled, those early years passed in a blur of airplanes and limousines, wealth, drugs and alcohol.

“Sex, drugs and rock ’n’ roll; it was the whole cornucopia of fleshly material,” he said in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network show “The 700 Club.” “I tried everything. I tasted every possible thing. I had a spiritual compass, but I abandoned it completely.”

In 1977, distraught at the turn his life had taken, Mr. Peek became a born-again Christian. He renounced drugs and alcohol and left the band. He signed with Lamb & Lion Records, a label founded by Pat Boone, for which he recorded “All Things Are Possible.” His other albums of religious music include “Electro Voice,” “Cross Over” and “Caribbean Christmas.” (Mr. Peek and his wife lived in the Cayman Islands for many years.)

Sincerely,

Everette Hatcher, everettehatcher@gmail.com, http://www.thedailyhatch.org, cell ph 501-920-5733, Box 23416, LittleRock, AR 72221

Remembering Dan Peek of AMERICA – Lonely People (Christian version)

Lonely People

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the EP by Orla Gartland, see Lonely People (EP).
“Lonely People”
Single by America
from the album Holiday
B-side “Mad Dog”
Released November 27, 1974
Genre Pop Rock
Length 2:27
Label Warner Bros. 8048
Writer(s) Dan Peek, Catherine Peek
Producer(s) George Martin
America singles chronology
Tin Man
(1974)
Lonely People
(1974)
Sister Golden Hair
(1975)

Lonely People” is a song written by the husband-and-wife team of Dan and Catherine Peek and recorded by America.

Background[edit]

“Lonely People” was the second single release from America’s 1974 album Holiday. “Lonely People” reached number five on the Billboard Hot 100,[1] Dan Peek’s only credited song to reach that chart’s top 10,[2] and was America’s second number one on the Easy Listening chart, where it stayed for one week in February 1975.[3]

“Lonely People” was not automatically earmarked for the Holiday album: Peek unsuccessfully submitted a demo of the song for John Sebastian to consider recording.[4]

“Lonely People” was written as an optimistic response to the Beatles‘ song “Eleanor Rigby“. Peek considered “Eleanor Rigby” an “overwhelming” “picture…of the masses of lost humanity, drowning in grey oblivion” and would recall being “lacerated” on first hearing the lyrics of its chorus which run “All the lonely people: where do they all come from…where do they all belong”.[4] “Lonely People” was written within a few weeks of Peek’s 1973 marriage to Catherine Mayberry: Peek- “I always felt like a melancholy, lonely person. And now [upon getting married] I felt like I’d won.”[5] The lyrics of “Lonely People” advise “all the lonely people”: “Don’t give up until you drink from the silver cup”, a metaphor which Peek thus explains: “It’s possible to drink from another’s well of experience…and be refreshed.”[4]

Dan Peek would recall that in his post-America solo career he would utilize “Lonely People” to close his concerts, introducing the song “with words to the effect” “that Jesus is the answer to loneliness”. On the advice of a fan Peek began amending the actual lyrics of the song to convey this pro-Christian message and Peek recorded a lyrically revised version of “Lonely People” for his 1986 album Electro Voice. This revised version amended the original lyrics “And ride that highway in the sky” and “You never know until you try” to “And give your heart to Jesus Christ.”[6]

Charts[edit]

Chart (1974) Peak
position
US Billboard Easy Listening 1
US Billboard Hot 100 5
US Cash Box Singles Chart 10
US Record World Singles Chart 9
US Radio & Records Singles Chart 12

Other versions[edit]

Jars of Clay remade “Lonely People” for their 2003 album Who We Are Instead. Their version was featured on The WB TV series Everwood and was on the 2004 Everwood soundtrack album.

See also[edit]

References[edit]

  1. Jump up^ America, “Lonely People” Chart Positions Retrieved March 30, 2015
  2. Jump up^ Chart Positions for Dan Peek songs Retrieved March 30, 2015
  3. Jump up^ Whitburn, Joel (2002). Top Adult Contemporary: 1961-2001. Record Research. p. 20.
  4. ^ Jump up to:a b c Peak, Dan (2004). An American Band: the America Story. Xulon Press. ISBN 1-594679-29-0.
  5. Jump up^ “America Founding Guitarist Dan Peek Dies”. The Morton Report. Retrieved March 7, 2014.
  6. Jump up^ “Dan Peek Discusses His Latest Album Electro Voice”. Billboard (The Morton Report) (vol 98 #32 (August 9, 1986)).

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Chuck Girard

Chuck Girard Band “Sometimes Alleluia” 1979

Published on Apr 24, 2015

Recently unearthed video of Chuck Girard Band performing the song “Sometimes Alleluia” from Chuck’s 1977 album, “Chuck Girard”. Performance is at Calvary Chapel, Costa Mesa, CA circa 1979. Personnel: Jon Linn, electric guit., Larry Myers, rhythm guit, ,
Terry Clark, keyboards, Jay Truax, bass, Mark Walker, drums.

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Chuck Girard Band “Little Country Church” 1979

Chuck Girard Band “A Love Song” 1979

Chuck Girard

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chuck Girard
Born August 27, 1943 (age 72)
Genres Vocal quartet, surf rock,Jesus music, contemporary Christian, worship music
Instruments Piano, vocals
Years active 1961–present
Labels Good News, Seven Thunders
Associated acts Love Song, The Castells,The Hondells
Website chuckgirard.com

Chuck Girard is a pioneer of Contemporary Christian music.[1] He was born August 27, 1943 in Los Angeles, California, and moved to Santa Rosa, California in his young teens. He was a founding member of Love Song, the first Christian rock band to become popular in the United States.[1]
He became a solo artist in 1975, after leaving the surf rock band, The Hondells, and wrote and performed the songs “Sometimes Alleluia” and “Rock ‘N’ Roll Preacher”,[1] both of which were featured on his debut Chuck Girard, an album that featured the band Ambrosia prominently throughout.

He is the father of Alisa Childers, a member of Zoegirl.[2]

Discography[edit]

Secular albums[edit]

  • The Castells So This Is Love (Era Records, 1961)
  • The Best of the Castells (K-Tel, 2000)
  • The Hondells Go Little Honda (Mercury Records, 1965)
  • The Hondells (Mercury Records, 1964)
  • The Ghouls Dracula’s Deuce’
  • Mr. Gasser & The Weird-Ohs Silly Surfers
  • The Revells The Go Sound of the Slots

Singles[edit]

The Castells

  • “Make Believe Wedding” (1961) US No. 98
  • “Sacred” (1961) US No. 20
  • “So This Is Love” (1961) US No. 21

The Hondells

  • “Little Honda” (1964) US: #9
  • “My Buddy Seat” (1965) US: #87
  • “Younger Girl” (1966) US: #52

With Love Song[edit]

  • Love Song (Good News Records, 1972)
  • Final Touch (Good News Records, 1974)
  • “Feel the Love” (live double LP) (Good News Records, 1977)
  • “Welcome Back” (CD) (Maranatha/Word, 1995)

Solo Albums[edit]

  • Chuck Girard (Good News Records, 1975)
  • Glow in the Dark (Good News Records, 1976)
  • Written on the Wind (Good News Records, 1977)
  • Take it Easy (Good News Records, 1978)
  • The Stand (Good News Records, 1980)
  • The Name Above All Names (Seven Thunders Records, 1983)
  • Fire & Light (Seven Thunders Records, 1991)
  • Voice of the Wind (Seven Thunders Records, 1994)
  • Heart of Christmas (Seven Thunders Records, 2001)
  • Evening Shadows (Seven Thunders Records, 2008)

Compilations[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Jump up to:a b c Cusic, Don (2010). Encyclopedia of Contemporary Christian Music: Pop, Rock, and Worship. ABC–CLIO. pp. 208–209. ISBN 978-0-313-34425-1. Retrieved November 15, 2010.
  2. Jump up^ Montague, Joe (April 7, 2005). “ZOEgirl Doesn’t Just Make Music, They Teach Us How to Live”. Soul Shine. Retrieved November 15, 2010.

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RESPONDING TO HARRY KROTO’S BRILLIANT RENOWNED ACADEMICS!! David Parkin, Anthropologist, Oxford, “I am a rationalist humanist or something. (Religion) gives a lot of comfort to some people so it must be tolerated”

On November 21, 2014 I received a letter from Nobel Laureate Harry Kroto and it said:

…Please click on this URL http://vimeo.com/26991975

and you will hear what far smarter people than I have to say on this matter. I agree with them.

Harry Kroto

Nick Gathergood, David-Birkett, Harry-Kroto

I have attempted to respond to all of Dr. Kroto’s friends arguments and I have posted my responses one per week for over a year now. Here are some of my earlier posts:

Arif AhmedHaroon Ahmed,Sir David AttenboroughMark Balaguer, Horace Barlow, Michael BateSir Patrick Bateson,Patricia ChurchlandAaron CiechanoverNoam Chomsky,Alan DershowitzHubert Dreyfus, Bart Ehrman, Stephan FeuchtwangDavid Friend,  Riccardo GiacconiIvar Giaever , Roy GlauberRebecca GoldsteinDavid J. Gross,  Brian Greene, Susan GreenfieldStephen F Gudeman,  Alan Guth, Jonathan HaidtTheodor W. Hänsch, Brian Harrison,  Hermann HauserRoald Hoffmann,  Bruce HoodHerbert Huppert,  Gareth Stedman Jones, Steve JonesShelly KaganMichio Kaku,  Stuart Kauffman,  Lawrence KraussHarry Kroto, George LakoffElizabeth Loftus,  Alan MacfarlanePeter MillicanMarvin MinskyLeonard Mlodinow,  Yujin NagasawaAlva NoeDouglas Osheroff,  Jonathan Parry,  Saul PerlmutterHerman Philipse,  Carolyn PorcoRobert M. PriceLisa RandallLord Martin ReesAlison Richard,  Oliver Sacks, John SearleMarcus du SautoySimon SchafferJ. L. Schellenberg,   Lee Silver Peter Singer,  Walter Sinnott-ArmstrongRonald de Sousa, Victor StengerJohn SulstonBarry Supple,   Leonard Susskind, Raymond TallisNeil deGrasse Tyson,  C.J. van RijsbergenAlexander Vilenkin, Sir John WalkerFrank WilczekSteven Weinberg, and  Lewis Wolpert,

In  the second video below in the 74th clip in this series are his words and  my response is below them. 

50 Renowned Academics Speaking About God (Part 1)

Another 50 Renowned Academics Speaking About God (Part 2)

A Further 50 Renowned Academics Speaking About God (Part 3)

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Interview of David Parkin – part one

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Interview of Professor David Parkin the anthropologist on 17th March 2009 by Alan Macfarlane. For a higher-quality, version with summary please see http://www.alanmacfarlane.com

Interview of David Parkin – part two

 

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David Parkin (1940- ) was from 1996 until 2008, when he retired, professor of social anthropology at the University of Oxford, fellow of All Souls College, and head of ISCA and the School of Anthropology and Museum Ethnography from 1996-2006. Before coming to Oxford, he was at the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, first as a student  (1959-1964) and then as a member of faculty (1964-1996), becoming professor of African anthropology in 1982. He is now Emeritus Professor at Oxford and Honorary Fellow at the School of Oriental and African Studies.  His early training included the study of Swahili and Bantu linguistics alongside anthropology, and this has stamped his long-standing interest in the role of language in social organisation in Africa and generally.

Parkin’s focus has been on East Africa where he has carried out a number of years’ fieldwork among different peoples and in different ecologies: the Luo of western Kenya, the Giriama of eastern Kenya, and Swahili-speakers in Zanzibar and Mombasa. He has studied the growth of ethnically mixed urban populations in Kampala, Uganda, where his interest in Luo first started, and in Nairobi, where he developed more fully his interest in Luo. Field research among the Giriama of Kenya began with a study of economic entrepreneurship, and continued into an analysis of the role of religion in pastoralism, agriculture and trade. Thereafter he concentrated on Islam among Swahili-speakers, extending this concern from the East African coast to the Hadhramaut, Oman and other areas of the Indian Ocean littoral. In later years he examined concepts of materiality, especially in relation to the human body, and became interested in the evolution of language.

He was chairman of the International African Institute and of the Association of Social Anthropologists, was elected fellow of the British Academy, and has sat on various bodies concerned with higher education and the social sciences, both in the UK and France, where he has also held various appointments, including visiting membership of the CNRS.

While continuing as Emeritus Professor at the Institute of Social and Cultural Anthropology at Oxford University, he has from 2009 been research professor at the Max Planck Institute for Religious and Ethnic Diversity in Goettingen, Germany, focusing on medical and sociolinguistic processes of diversification.

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Below is a letter in which I respond to Dr. Parkin’s quote:

February 23, 2015

Dr. David Parkin, Professor Emeritus of Social Anthropology, University of Oxford, All Souls College, United Kingdom

Dear Dr. Parkin,

I  took interest in a two hour interview that you gave to Alan Macfarlane and found on You Tube and I noticed that you had worked in the area of evolutionary psychology and the evolution of human social groups and the subject of evolution has interested me recently too. I also noticed that you had spent a considerable amount of time studying religions. As you can tell from reading this letter I am an evangelical Christian and I have made it a hobby of mine to correspond with scientists or academics like yourself over the last 25 years. Some of those who corresponded back with me have been  Ernest Mayr (1904-2005),, George Wald (1906-1997), Carl Sagan (1934-1996),  Robert Shapiro (1935-2011), Nicolaas Bloembergen (1920-),  Brian Charlesworth (1945-),  Francisco J. Ayala (1934-) Elliott Sober (1948-), Kevin Padian (1951-), Matt Cartmill (1943-) , Milton Fingerman (1928-), John J. Shea (1969-), , Michael A. Crawford (1938-), Paul Kurtz (1925-2012), Sol Gordon (1923-2008), Albert Ellis (1913-2007), Barbara Marie Tabler (1915-1996), Renate Vambery (1916-2005), Archie J. Bahm (1907-1996), Aron S “Gil” Martin ( 1910-1997), Matthew I. Spetter (1921-2012), H. J. Eysenck (1916-1997), Robert L. Erdmann (1929-2006), Mary Morain (1911-1999), Lloyd Morain (1917-2010),  Warren Allen Smith (1921-), Bette Chambers (1930-),  Gordon Stein (1941-1996) , Milton Friedman (1912-2006), John Hospers (1918-2011), Michael Martin (1932-).Harry Kroto (1939-), Marty E. Martin (1928-), Richard Rubenstein (1924-), James Terry McCollum (1936-), Edward O. WIlson (1929-), Lewis Wolpert (1929), Gerald Holton (1922-), Martin Rees (1942-), Alan Macfarlane (1941-),  Roald Hoffmann (1937-), Herbert Kroemer (1928-), Thomas H. Jukes (1906-1999), Glenn BranchGeoff Harcourt (1931-) and  Ray T. Cragun (1976-).  I would consider it an honor to add you to this very distinguished list. 

I just finished reading the online addition of the book Darwin, Francis ed. 1892. Charles Darwin: his life told in an autobiographical chapter, and in a selected series of his published letters [abridged edition]. London: John Murray. There are several points that Charles Darwin makes in this book that were very wise, honest, logical, shocking and some that were not so wise. The Christian Philosopher Francis Schaeffer once said of Darwin’s writings, “Darwin in his autobiography and in his letters showed that all through his life he never really came to a quietness concerning the possibility that chance really explained the situation of the biological world. You will find there is much material on this [from Darwin] extended over many many years that constantly he was wrestling with this problem.”

Recently I ran across the following quote from you (in that interview with Alan Macfarlane I mentioned earlier, BTW Dr. Macfarlane does the best in-depth interviews by far):

I am a rationalist humanist or something. (Religion) gives a lot of comfort to some people so it must be tolerated. 

I noticed that you have done a lot of work on the subject of religion in your academic studies and that that includes Islam too. 

On February 21, 2015 I walked into the First Baptist Church Orlando Saturday evening service and wanted to get a seat up close. I saw that the third row was practically empty but once I got up front I realized that most of that row had been taped off and reserved but there was a few seats open at the end of the row. I sat down and then I noticed a few moments after the service started there were some people being escorted into the service and they sat next to me on this row. Little did I know that these were Coptic Christians who had recently moved from Egypt to Orlando. I got to visit with some of them after the service and told them I would praying for them and for their relatives back in Egypt.

David Uth delivered a wonderful message on I John 4 and he spent on extra time at the close of the service on verse 18, “There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.” Then he put on this picture below:

A video released Sunday showed the beheading of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians in Libya by ISIS militants.

Then Dr. Uth quoted from this passage below:

Acts 7:50-60English Standard Version (ESV)

50 Did not my hand make all these things?’

51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you. 52 Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who announced beforehand the coming of the Righteous One, whom you have now betrayed and murdered,53 you who received the law as delivered by angels and did not keep it.”

The Stoning of Stephen

54 Now when they heard these things they were enraged, and they ground their teeth at him. 55 But he, full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 And he said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” 57 But they cried out with a loud voice and stopped their ears and rushed together[a] at him. 58 Then they cast him out of the city and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their garments at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.

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Dr. Uth pointed out that Jesus stood up at the right hand of God to greet Stephen to heaven and Dr. Uth imagined that Jesus stood up to greet these 21 Coptic Christians home and then we all sang the song ALWAYS which is below and there was not a dry eye in the place!!!!

Always 

My foes are many, they rise against me
But I will hold my ground
I will not fear the war, I will not fear the storm
My help is on the way, my help is on the way

Oh, my God, He will not delay
My refuge and strength always
I will not fear, His promise is true
My God will come through always, always

Trouble surrounds me, chaos abounding
My soul will rest in You
I will not fear the war, I will not fear the storm
My help is on the way, my help is on the way

Oh, my God, He will not delay
My refuge and strength always
I will not fear, His promise is true
My God will come through always, always

I lift my eyes up, my help comes from the Lord
I lift my eyes up, my help comes from the Lord
I lift my eyes up, my help comes from the Lord
I lift my eyes up, my help comes from the Lord
From You Lord, from You Lord

Oh, my God, He will not delay
My refuge and strength always
I will not fear, His promise is true
My God will come through always, always

Oh, my God, He will not delay
My refuge and strength always, always

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 DR PARKIN, YOU MAY BE STILL BE WONDERING WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN RELIGION: Let make 2 points here. First, the Bible teaches that everyone knows in their heart that God exists because of the beauty of God’s creation and the conscience that God has planted in everyone’s heart (Romans 1).

Second, all humans have moral motions.

 Francis Schaffer in his book THE GOD WHO IS THERE addresses these same issues:

“[in Christianity] there is a sufficient basis for morals. Nobody has ever discovered a way of having real “morals” without a moral absolute. If there is no moral absolute, we are left with hedonism (doing what I like) or some form of the social contract theory (what is best for society as a a hole is right). However, neither of these alternative corresponds to the moral motions that men have. Talk to people long enough and deeply enough, and you will find that they consider some things are really right and something are really wrong. Without absolutes, morals as morals cease to exist, and humanistic mean starting from himself is unable to find the absolute he needs. But because the God of the Bible is there, real morals exist. Within this framework I can say one action is right and another wrong, without talking nonsense.” 117

Now back to my first point, concerning ROMANS CHAPTER ONE. It has been found that when atheists are asked with a polygraph machine if they believe in God and when they so “NO” the polygraph indicates they are lying. Claude Brown actually tested this with over 15,000 job applicants over a long period of time in his trucking line.  ROMANS ONE IS RIGHT WHEN IT SAYS THAT GOD PUT THAT CONSCIENCE IN EVERYONE’S HEART THAT BEARS WITNESS THAT HE CREATED THEM FOR A PURPOSE AND THAT IS WHY THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE ATTEMPTING TO SEEK OUT GOD!!!!

Instead of addressing the issue of which morality is right today, I just what to ask you why you think materialist anthropologists are not able to explain why humans always have a sense of moral motions? No tribe of people have ever been found without moral motions!!!!!

When I read the book  Charles Darwin: his life told in an autobiographical chapter, and in a selected series of his published letters, I also read  a commentary on it by Francis Schaeffer and I wanted to both  quote some of Charles Darwin’s own words to you and then include the comments of Francis Schaeffer on those words. I have also enclosed a CD with two messages from Adrian Rogers and Bill Elliff concerning Darwinism. THESE COMMENTS BY SCHAEFFER ON THE MORAL MOTIONS PROMPTED ME TO WRITE YOU TODAY. 

The passages which here follow are extracts, somewhat abbreviated, from a part of the Autobiography, written in 1876, in which my father gives the history of his religious views:—

CHARLES DARWIN’S WORDS:

But now the grandest scenes would not cause any such convictions  and feelings to rise in my mind. It may be truly said that I am like a man who has become colour-blind and the universal belief by men of the existence of redness makes my present loss of perception of not the least value as evidence. This argument would be a valid one if all men of all races had the same inward conviction of the existence of one God; but we know that this is very far from being the case. Therefore I cannot see that such inward convictions and feelings are of any weight as evidence of what really exists. The state of mind which grand scenes formerly excited in me, and which was intimately connected with a belief in God, did not essentially differ from that which is often called the sense of sublimity; and however difficult it may be to explain the genesis of this sense, it can hardly be advanced as an argument for the existence of God, any more than the powerful though vague and similar feelings excited by music.

Francis Schaeffer observed:

You notice that Darwin had already said he had lost his sense of music [appreciation]. However, he brings forth what I think is a false argument. I usually use it in the area of morality. I mention that materialistic anthropologists point out that different people have different moral [systems]  and this is perfectly true, but what the materialist anthropologist can never point out is why man has a sense of moral motion and that is the problem here. Therefore, it is perfectly true that men have different concepts of God and different concepts of moral motion, but Darwin himself is not satisfied in his own position and WHERE DO THEY [MORAL MOTIONS] COME FROM AT ALL? So you are wrestling with the same dilemma here in this reference as you do in the area of all things human. For these men it is not the distinction that raises the problem, but it is the overwhelming factor of the existence of the humanness of man, the mannishness of man. The simple fact is he saw that you are shut up to either God or chance, and he said basically “I don’t see how it could be chance” and at the same time he looks at a mountain or listens to a piece of music it is a testimony that really chance isn’t sufficient enough. So gradually with the sensitivity of his own inborn self conscience he kills it. He deliberately  kills the beauty so it doesn’t argue with his theory. Maybe I am being false to Darwin here. Who can say about Darwin’s subconscious thoughts? It seems to me though this is exactly the case. What you find is a man who can’t stand the argument of the external beauty and the mannishness of man so he just gives it up in this particular place.

As a secularist you believe that it is sad indeed that millions of Christians are hoping for heaven but no heaven is waiting for them. Paul took a close look at this issue too:

I Corinthians 15 asserts:

12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

I sent you a CD that starts off with the song DUST IN THE WIND by Kerry Livgren of the group KANSAS which was a hit song in 1978 when it rose to #6 on the charts because so many people connected with the message of the song. It included these words, “All we do, crumbles to the ground though we refuse to see, Dust in the Wind, All we are is dust in the wind, Don’t hang on, Nothing lasts forever but the Earth and Sky, It slips away, And all your money won’t another minute buy.”

Kerry Livgren himself said that he wrote the song because he saw where man was without a personal God in the picture. Solomon pointed out in the Book of Ecclesiastes that those who believe that God doesn’t exist must accept three things. FIRST, death is the end and SECOND, chance and time are the only guiding forces in this life.  FINALLY, power reigns in this life and the scales are never balanced. The Christian can  face death and also confront the world knowing that it is not determined by chance and time alone and finally there is a judge who will balance the scales.

Both Kerry Livgren and the bass player Dave Hope of Kansas became Christians eventually. Kerry Livgren first tried Eastern Religions and Dave Hope had to come out of a heavy drug addiction. I was shocked and elated to see their personal testimony on The 700 Club in 1981 and that same  interview can be seen on You Tube today. Livgren lives in Topeka, Kansas today where he teaches “Diggers,” a Sunday school class at Topeka Bible ChurchDAVE HOPE is the head of Worship, Evangelism and Outreach at Immanuel Anglican Church in Destin, Florida.

The answer to find meaning in life is found in putting your faith and trust in Jesus Christ. The Bible is true from cover to cover and can be trusted.

Thank you again for your time and I know how busy you are.

Everette Hatcher, everettehatcher@gmail.com, http://www.thedailyhatch.org, cell ph 501-920-5733, Box 23416, LittleRock, AR 72221, United States

Is the Bible historically accurate? Here are some of the posts I have done in the past on the subject: 1. The Babylonian Chronicleof Nebuchadnezzars Siege of Jerusalem2. Hezekiah’s Siloam Tunnel Inscription. 3. Taylor Prism (Sennacherib Hexagonal Prism)4. Biblical Cities Attested Archaeologically. 5. The Discovery of the Hittites6.Shishak Smiting His Captives7. Moabite Stone8Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III9A Verification of places in Gospel of John and Book of Acts., 9B Discovery of Ebla Tablets10. Cyrus Cylinder11. Puru “The lot of Yahali” 9th Century B.C.E.12. The Uzziah Tablet Inscription13. The Pilate Inscription14. Caiaphas Ossuary14 B Pontius Pilate Part 214c. Three greatest American Archaeologists moved to accept Bible’s accuracy through archaeology.

You can hear DAVE HOPE and Kerry Livgren’s stories from this youtube link:

(part 1 ten minutes)

(part 2 ten minutes)

Kansas – Dust in the Wind (Official Video)

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Adrian Rogers on Darwinism

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But I’m beginning to think that the Veterans Administration should win the prize. The EEOC crowd is simply a bunch of nutty leftists, but VA bureaucrats are downright evil. They create secret waiting lists that result in dying veterans and thenpay themselves big bonuses.

And we now have evidence that they deliberately lie to internal investigators and deliberately scheme to deny care to former military personnel. The Daily Caller has someof the gruesome details. First, here’s information on the attempted coverup.

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You won’t be surprised to learn, by the way, that the crowd in Washington claims the actual problem is that the VA’s budget is too small.

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Gee, how comforting.

Speaking of inventory procedures, the Daily Caller reports on an internal investigation that found grotesque and dangerous sloppiness in the handling of weapons at federal prisons.

Firearms, ammunition and dangerous chemical agents could be missing from federal prison armories without government officials having a clue they are gone…said a Department of Justice Inspector General report made public Thursday. …The IG reported missing ammunition in one armory but redacted multiple examples of equipment that was removed or added without a system update. Inventory tracking inadequacies make it all but impossible to know if equipment is missing. The IG investigation was prompted in 2011 after a BOP employee pleaded guilty to stealing munitions from a federal prison facility, but changes made since 2011 by BOP have not remedied the problem. …Three of the seven federal prisons reviewed also stockpiled “unauthorized chemical agents and ammunition,” but the IG redacted details about those stockpiles.

The good news (fingers crossed) is that there’s no concrete evidence that weapons actually wound up in the hands of thugs or terrorists.

And I guess this isn’t as bad as the Obama Administration’s so-called “fast and furious” scandal, which was based on deliberately letting criminals obtains guns (though it did lead to a good Jay Leno joke).

P.S. Since I don’t want to be accused of discrimination, the episodes discussed above from the VA, CIA and BOP should not be interpreted as a slight to all the other federal departments and agencies that also work hard to waste money and make our lives less pleasant. Rest assured that the bureaucrats at the TSA, IRS, State Department,DHS, and elsewhere are also capable of waste, inefficiency, fraud, and abuse.

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