We got to get rid of the National Park Service!!!

We got to get rid of the National Park Service!!!

President Obama thinks he can prevail in the government shutdown fight by deliberately making life as difficult as possible for the maximum number of ordinary Americans.

We’ve seen this before. After suffering a defeat on the sequester, he made himself a laughingstock (as illustrated by these cartoons) with his Chicken-Little warnings that a tiny bit of fiscal restraint would grind government to a halt.

But his sequester hysterics are trivial compared to what the Obama Administration is doing today with the National Park Service.

Here are some unbelievable excerpts from Mark Steyn’s funny yet horrifying National Review column.

…the one place where a full-scale shutdown is being enforced is in America’s alleged “National Park Service,” a term of art that covers everything from canyons and glaciers to war memorials and historic taverns. The NPS has spent the last two weeks behaving as the paramilitary wing of the DNC, expending more resources in trying to close down open-air, unfenced areas than it would normally do in keeping them open. It began with the war memorials on the National Mall — that’s to say, stone monuments on pieces of grass under blue sky.

But it gets worse.

Not content with that, the NPS shock troops then moved on to insisting that privately run sites such as the Claude Moore Colonial Farm and privately owned sites such as Mount Vernon were also required to shut. When the Pisgah Inn on the Blue Ridge Parkway declined to comply with the government’s order to close (an entirely illegal order, by the way), the “shut down” Park Service sent armed agents and vehicles to blockade the hotel’s driveway.

Think that’s bad? Read on.

..in South Dakota, having closed Mount Rushmore the NPS storm troopers additionally attempted to close the view of Mount Rushmore — that’s to say a stretch of the highway, where the shoulder widens and you can pull over and admire the stony visages of America’s presidents.

What happened in Yellowstone, though, is surreal. Like something from Cambodia during the Pol Pot years.

But perhaps the most extraordinary story to emerge from the NPS is that of the tour group of foreign seniors whose bus was trapped in Yellowstone Park on the day the shutdown began. They were pulled over photographing a herd of bison when an armed ranger informed them, with the insouciant ad-hoc unilateral lawmaking to which the armed bureaucrat is distressingly prone, that taking photographs counts as illegal “recreation.” “Sir, you are recreating,” the ranger informed the tour guide. And we can’t have that, can we? They were ordered back to the Old Faithful Inn, next to the geyser of the same name, but forbidden to leave said inn to look at said geyser. Armed rangers were posted at the doors, and, just in case one of the wily Japanese or Aussies managed to outwit his captors by escaping through one of the inn’s air ducts and down to the geyser, a fleet of NPS SUVs showed up every hour and a half throughout the day, ten minutes before Old Faithful was due to blow, to surround the geyser and additionally ensure that any of America’s foreign visitors trying to photograph the impressive natural phenomenon from a second-floor hotel window would still wind up with a picture full of government officials. The following morning the bus made the two-and-a-half-hour journey to the park boundary but was prevented from using any of the bathrooms en route, including at a private dude ranch whose owner was threatened with the loss of his license if he allowed any tourist to use the facilities.

No bathroom stops?!? Has the bureaucracy really become this punitive and vindictive? Sounds like the Park Service has the same training program as the IRS.

I wonder if the “you-are-recreating” ranger is related to Mr. Norlander?

Ironically, American citizens now have less rights to “public land” than English peasants in 1217.

…in actual monarchies the king takes a more generous view of “public lands.” Two years after Magna Carta, in 1217, King Henry III signed the Charter of the Forest, which despite various amendments and replacement statutes remained in force in Britain for some three-quarters of a millennium, until the early Seventies. If Magna Carta is a landmark in its concept of individual rights, the Forest Charter played an equivalent role in advancing the concept of the commons, the public space. Repealing various restrictions by his predecessors, Henry III opened the royal forests to the freemen of England, granted extensive grazing and hunting rights, and eliminated the somewhat severe penalty of death for taking the king’s venison. The NPS have not yet fried anyone for taking King Barack’s deer, but it is somewhat sobering to reflect that an English peasant enjoyed more freedom on the sovereign’s land in the 13th century than a freeborn American does on “the people’s land” in the 21st century.

Yet all this abuse serves no purpose for open-air parks and monuments.

The geyser stasi of the National Park Service have in effect repealed the Charter of the Forest. President Obama and his enforcers have the same concept of the royal forest that King John did. The government does not own this land; the Park Service are merely the janitorial staff of “we the people” (to revive an obsolescent concept). No harm will befall the rocks and rivers by posting a sign at the entrance saying “No park ranger on duty during government shutdown. Proceed beyond this point at your own risk.” And, at the urban monuments, you don’t even need that: It is disturbing that minor state officials even presume to have the right to prevent the citizenry walking past the Vietnam Wall.

So what’s the bottom line?

The National Park Service should be out of the business of urban landmarks, and the vast majority of our “national” parks should be returned to the states.

Amen.

In my libertarian fantasy world, I have a list of priorities. I start with big things like entitlement reform and flat tax.

Then I move to medium goals like shutting down the department of agriculture and getting out of NATO.

At the bottom of my list are things like ending the drug war. It used to be that getting rid of national parks was in this category.

But the bureaucrats at the NPS have behaved so despicably that this is now much higher on my list of priorities. Simply stated, they’ve earned our disdain.

Let’s close with some amusing cartoons on this topic.

This Nate Beeler gem may be my favorite from today’s collection.

NPS Cartoon 3

Michael Ramirez unveils a monument to arrogance.

NPS Cartoon 4

Chip Bok shows who’s the real ideologue.

NPS Cartoon 2

Last but not least, Glenn McCoy captures the President’s petulance.

NPS Cartoon 1

P.S. Other examples of government shutdown humor can be enjoyed by clicking here, here, here, here, and here.

P.P.S. Excerpts from some of my other favorite Mark Steyn columns can be read here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

 

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Waste and Fraud in Disability claims should be cut now!!!!

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October 8, 2013 4:15PM

Senate Committee Hearing on Disability Fraud

On Sunday, CBS’s 60 Minutes profiled Sen. Tom Coburn’s (R-OK) on-going investigation of fraud and abuse in the federal government’s two main disability programs: Social Security Disability Insurance and Supplemental Security Income (see Chris Edwards’ discussion here). Yesterday, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs (Coburn is the ranking member) held a hearing on a particularly egregious example centered on the Social Security Administration’s Huntington, WV office. 

The case is a perfect example of what is quickly becoming known as the “disability-industrial complex”: specialty law firms overwhelming the system with dubious disability claims, doctors vouching for applicants with dubious claims, and federal administrative law judges awarding disability benefits to individuals with dubious claims.

 

The committee produced a 160+ page report that is jaw-dropping from beginning to end. If you’re pressed for time, at least check out the “findings” on pages 4-7. In the Huntington case, it’s pretty clear that the three points of the triangle were all in cahoots. It’s also quite similar to a still unfolding disability scandal in Puerto Rico that I discussed in August. In both cases, the public is now aware of the scandals thanks to the Wall Street Journal’s Daniel Paletta’s excellent investigative reporting. That begs two questions, however: what other major disability scandals are sitting out there waiting for a curious reporter discover? And what other ticking time-bombs are Social Security Administration bureaucrats aware of but doing little to defuse? 

For the record, I used to work for Sen. Coburn. Regardless of whether or not one agrees with Coburn’s positions or his approach, the guy genuinely cares about how taxpayer dollars are spent. Coburn’s staff is a rarity in that the bulk of their work revolves around saving rather than spending other people’s money. However, let’s not forget that fraud and abuse comes with government programs the same way that fries and a drink comes with a Happy Meal. So while reports and hearings that shed light on troubled federal programs are useful, the ultimate goal should be to terminate – not “fix” – them.

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The Book of Manning video and review Part 1 (I remember seeing Archie play against the Vols in 1968 in Jackson!!!)

Archie who

I saw the ESPN show “Book of Manning” and it talks about the game between the Ole Miss Rebels and the #3 ranked Tennessee Vols. I went to see Tennessee play Ole Miss in Jackson in 1968 and all my Mississippi relatives were coming up to me and saying “Archie Who!!” I didn’t know what they were talking about until the game started. Below is the rest of the story from Sports Illustrated.

November 24, 1969

Answer To A Foolish Question

All week Tennessee fans taunted Ole Miss with cries of ‘Who’s Archie?’ On Saturday Archie Manning showed them

You’d have thought those folks from Tennessee would have known better, being neighbors and all. Shoot, any 10-year-old kid who ever got his button nose past the cover of a history book can tell you it doesn’t take all that much to rile Mississippians. Remember when old Abe got up and started off his inaugural speech by saying cotton underwear itched? Bam: a civil war. And you know how easily upset the traffic cops there get when they see a rich Yankee tourist driving 38 miles an hour in a 45-mile-an-hour speed zone.

So what does Steve Kiner do? Steve Kiner, he’s one of Tennessee‘s All-America linebackers, and one day he’s sitting around jawing with some of the boys about the horses they got playing football at Ole Miss. “Hee-haw,” says Kiner, “them’s not horses, them’s mules.” You can guess how gracefully that was received in Oxford and Biloxi and Vicks-burg, where they hang pictures of Archie Manning, the Ole Miss junior quarterback, on the living room wall, right next to the ones of Robert E. Lee and, lately, of Spiro T. Agnew. “Mules, huh?” was the word. “Well, old Archie will show them who’s mules.” In Tennessee, where everybody was feeling good about being unbeaten in seven games and being ranked No. 3 in the nation, they laughed and started handing out ARCHIE WHO? buttons. And, baby, that really tore it.

All this, of course, was greeted with secret delight by Johnny Vaught, the Ole Miss coach and a man who would welcome a Greek bearing gifts, just as long as they could be used as psychological weapons. And should the gifts be less than needed, Vaught, it is suggested, is not opposed to fattening them a bit. Last Wednesday, three days before he would send his troops out to destroy Tennessee 38-0 at Jackson, Miss., the gnarly old oak of a coach never so much as glanced up as a small plane came roaring over his practice field spewing enemy leaflets. But the pilot turned out to be a strange breed of propagandist. On his third pass—after dropping such pleasantries as “Archie who? Archie Mud” and “Wreck the mules, the Vols are No. 1,” and all supposedly signed either by Kiner or Doug Dickey‘s Vols—the pilot cut his motor and yelled, “Go get them. Rebels! To hell with Tennessee!”

While the fires were raging in Mississippi, Vaught was making certain that no fuel was getting back to Tennessee. He closed off all players, most especially Manning, from interviews. Practices are always closed. Vaught once ran the president of the alumni association off the practice field. Another time, when a small plane circled the field, Vaught suspended the drill, called the FAA and had the plane grounded. When it turned out to be a member of the faculty showing off the campus to friends, Vaught told him to go fly someplace else. He did. “Once, just as a joke. I asked him if I could watch one of his redshirts take a shower,” said a veteran Mississippi reporter. “He figured I must be up to something, glared at me and said no I couldn’t, that the shower room was off limits.”

But then, Vaught has always been a suspicious man. When he arrived in 1947, his first move was to call in the state highway department and have them bulldoze a new practice field—eight feet deep. Deciding then that this wasn’t secluded enough, he called the bulldozers back and had them dig a second field, this one even deeper, and he had it surrounded by thick bushes and burly campus cops armed with walkie-talkies. One player suggested that if Vaught thought God was looking down on a practice, he’d put a roof over the field.

In the midst of all this tight seclusion was Archie Manning, big (6’3″ and 205 pounds) and redheaded and wondering why in hell he isn’t able to grow sideburns like everybody else. “But then,” he says, “I guess it’s because I only shave twice a week, sometimes.” He makes up for his lack of sideburns in other ways. Like throwing passes. In Ole Miss‘ first eight games—before walloping Tennessee—he completed 128 of 222 for 1,394 yards and six touchdowns. And like running: 100 carries for 363 yards and 11 touchdowns. Which makes it hard to understand how Mississippi managed to lose to Kentucky, Alabama and Houston, the first two by one point each. And after that they beat Georgia when the Bulldogs were 3-0 and ranked sixth, and after that they beat LSU when the Tigers were 6-0 and also ranked sixth.

“I guess it’s because all the games we won, we played in Mississippi in the daytime,” said Billy Gates, Ole Miss sports information director. “And the three games we lost were out of the state at night. Do you know of any bowls played in Mississippi in the daytime?” Against Kentucky, Ole Miss was looking to Alabama, which came the next week. Ole Miss‘ game plan was to run, mostly not to show off Manning’s passes to ‘Bama scouts. And so they ran, and Manning passed but 13 times for 84 yards and no touchdowns, and Kentucky won a shocker 10-9. And then against Alabama, Mississippi geared its defenses to stop a running attack—and Alabama came out throwing and won 33-32. “Those we should have won,” admits Vaught, holding up one finger. “Just one point each. But the kids knew we should have won and they didn’t get down. We have a thing here called matter-of-fact pride. We never lose it.”

Whatever it is they have at Ole Miss, they had it all against Tennessee, which came in favored anywhere from 11 to 6� points. Upstairs in the press box, Orange Bowl scouts were smiling and saying all they were afraid of was Tennessee losing in a rout—and you know that can’t happen. And downstairs the Ole Miss players were thinking that if they won, Vaught had given them the night to stay in Jackson—something he had done only once before in his career—and didn’t they already have the $5 traveling money to get back to Oxford the next day? Sure it could happen.

“Boys, what it’s going to take out there today is a great team effort, so let’s go,” said Vaught, knowing the boys were so high he didn’t have to say anything else.

And did it ever happen. After the opening kickoff, Manning took Ole Miss 82 yards in 11 plays, mostly on the running of Randy Reed and Bo Bowen, and then himself three times for the last three yards and the touchdown. Vaught had told him to open with a running game and then, when Tennessee stopped it, to go to the air. Tennessee never was to stop it.

On the second drive, after a short Tennessee punt, Ole Miss went 38 yards in eight plays, with Reed recovering Manning’s fumble in the end zone for the score.

The third drive was 16 yards in five plays after a 49-yard return of a punt by Bob Knight. Manning passed five yards to Riley Myers for that one. It was 21-0, and they were just moving into the second quarter, and Ole Miss players were saying things like “Where’s Kiner?” and “How do you like them mules?” and a few other things.

The rout was on. Upstairs one Orange Bowl scout said something about being sick and left. “They can’t do anything wrong,” another moaned. Just then, Ole Miss‘ Cloyce Hinton kicked a 42-yard field goal to make it 24-0. The kick sailed low, fluttering, swooping and, just as it was about to die, it struck the crossbar and bounced over. “Dang, I never saw such a gosh-awful lousy field goal in my life,” said Heywood Harris, Tennessee sports information director, “but, dang, I guess it counts.”

Early in the third quarter, all hope of a Tennessee recovery died when Reed went a yard for a touchdown, making it, after the kick, 31-0. That’s the same score the Vols beat Ole Miss by last year. No longer was anyone in orange clothing yelling “Archie who?” The last score, a one-yard dive by Bowen in the fourth quarter, just rubbed it in a bit.

When it was over and they added it all up, Manning had completed nine of 18 passes for 159 yards and one touchdown, and had run for another score. He and the rest of the team had earned a night on the town.

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The Book of Manning video and review Part 1

Here is the film below:

ESPN Films The Book Of Manning SEC 2013

Published on Oct 1, 2013

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The Need to Read: Francis Schaeffer – A Christian Scholar and Visionary Worldview Thinker

The Scientific Age

Uploaded by  on Oct 3, 2011

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Episode VII – The Age of Non Reason

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Episode 8: The Age Of Fragmentation

Published on Jul 24, 2012

Dr. Schaeffer’s sweeping epic on the rise and decline of Western thought and Culture

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I love the works of Francis Schaeffer and I have been on the internet reading several blogs that talk about Schaeffer’s work and the work below was really helpful. Schaeffer’s film series “How should we then live?  Wikipedia notes, “According to Schaeffer, How Should We Then Live traces Western history from Ancient Rome until the time of writing (1976) along three lines: the philosophic, scientific, and religious.[3] He also makes extensive references to art and architecture as a means of showing how these movements reflected changing patterns of thought through time. Schaeffer’s central premise is: when we base society on the Bible, on the infinite-personal God who is there and has spoken,[4] this provides an absolute by which we can conduct our lives and by which we can judge society.  Here are some posts I have done on this series: Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 10 “Final Choices” , episode 9 “The Age of Personal Peace and Affluence”, episode 8 “The Age of Fragmentation”, episode 7 “The Age of Non-Reason” , episode 6 “The Scientific Age” ,  episode 5 “The Revolutionary Age” , episode 4 “The Reformation”,  episode 3 “The Renaissance”, episode 2 “The Middle Ages,”, and  episode 1 “The Roman Age,” .

Great article on Schaeffer:

The Need to Read: Francis Schaeffer – A Christian Scholar and Visionary Worldview Thinker Print E-mail

Todd Kappelman Written by Todd Kappelman

Todd Kappelman provides us with a compelling introduction to the thought and writings of Francis Schaeffer, one of the great Christian thinkers of the 20th century.  As a Christian scholar and a visionary worldview thinker, Schaeffer applied Scriptural truth to the issues people are dealing with in the modern world.  He demonstrated that Christ’s truth is universal both across time and cultures.

The Need to Read series began several months ago with a program on C.S. Lewis . The rationale for this series is that many of the great writers who have helped many Christians mature are now either unknown or neglected by many who could use these authors insights into the faith.

This installment focuses on Francis Schaeffer (1912-1984), one of the most recognized and respected Christian authors of the twentieth century. He saw so much more in what he was looking at and agonized over it much more that the rest of us. He was one of the truly great Christians of our time.{1} If this is the case, and I and many others believe that it is, then this question follows: What was Schaeffer looking at? The remarkable answer to this question is all of human history and the long chain of events which have led to modern man as we see him today.

In a time when true scholarship is often equated with specialization in a particular period, people, or subject, Schaeffer was a grand generalist. He was a true Renaissance man who knew something about everything, as opposed to everything about something. In addition to his remarkable and encyclopedic knowledge of human history, he was able to connect important events together such that Christians can see what has happened in human history, what is happening now, and what will happen if man continues on his present course. Schaeffer was a visionary who had an uncanny understanding of the times we live in and what mankind can expect in the near future.

Schaeffers greatest gift, like that of C.S. Lewis, was his concern for the average Christian. He believed philosophy, theology, and ethics should not be reserved for the conversation of learned academics; rather they should be the daily concern of the man on the street. The price for ignorance of the subjects could be our life, or more importantly, our very souls. The Scriptures are very clear concerning the price of ignorance. The prophet Hosea said that Gods people perish for lack of knowledge.{2} In light of this observation, Schaeffers genius was his ability to communicate extremely difficult philosophical and theological issues on a non- technical level. His writings provide Christians with access to some of the most pressing concerns of our times.

Several aspects of Schaeffers style and sweeping concerns will be discussed in this essay. First, he perceived the wholeness of the created order. There is a basic need in all human beings to know the answers to the great questions of life, and Schaeffer believed that God has given man the answers in the form of natural and specific revelation.

Second, Schaeffer believed that man has a natural inclination to desire the reasonable. Schaeffer argued that the Christian faith is not only true, but that it is the most plausible account for the existence of man and his place in the universe. He contended that an irrational faith is not what God intended to communicate to man.

Third, Schaeffer was one of the original cultural critics of the twentieth century. He believed that mankind, both Christians and non-Christians, was adrift on a sea of irrationality. He further believed that this drift was intensifying to the point that true, orthodox Christianity was being lost.

Schaeffer and The God Who Is There

Francis Schaeffer developed some important themes in three of his books: The God Who Is There, Escape from Reason, and He Is There and He Is Not Silent.

Lets consider The God Who Is There first. The major thesis in this book is that modern man has abandoned the idea of truth, and that has had widespread consequences in every area of life.

In his argumentation, Schaeffer summarizes the last half of the twentieth century, tracing the development of the intellectual climate in Western society. Previous generations had grown up with a basic operational belief that the law of non-contradiction was true. What Schaeffer would have us understand about the law of non- contradiction is this: a statement cannot be both true and false in the same way at the same time. For example, you are either reading this essay or you are not. You cannot be both reading this and not reading it at the same time. Either you are or you are not–choose one.

When we hear something like this, our first reaction is of course we believe in this law of non-contradiction. We believe in it and live by it, even if we did not know what it was called until just a few moments ago. But Schaeffer points out that there has been a gradual decline of belief in this basic principle beginning with philosophy in the late eighteenth century. This first step in the movement away from reason is followed by second and third steps in the areas of art and music. These are, in turn, followed by the fourth steps of general culture and theology. There is much debate about which step came first and who followed whom. The important thing to realize is that after the seventeenth and eighteenth century Enlightenment in Europe, and certainly before the height of the Industrial age, men in the highest positions of academic and artistic life began to think very differently.

In the first half of this century, Western man began to think in terms of mutually exclusive truths. In other words, we began to believe that two people could believe mutually exclusive truths simultaneously and both of them could be correct. This would be like two people seeing an object and one claiming that it existed and the other claiming that it did not exist. The two men shake hands and say that they are both right in their conclusions. Objective reality is completely undermined and nothing is true. The result of this thinking is that man begins to despair of his condition.{3} He doesnt know what is ultimately true.

Schaeffers ambition was to help Christians be salt and light in our world. And to do that, we have to understand how people think. Schaeffer also cautions Christians against capitulation to irrationality themselves.{4} In the spirit of cooperation, many Christians are choosing to remain silent when they hear people say that all religions are the same, or that Christianity may be true for one person, but not true for another. Christians cannot afford to remain silent in a world that is embracing irrationality. The unity of orthodox Christianity should be centered and grounded on truth. This is not always easy, but it is absolutely necessary.

Escape from Reason

In The God Who Is There, Schaeffers main thesis is that modern man is characterized by his willingness to live a life of contradictions. In the book Escape from Reason, he shows how we arrived at this position, and what can be done about it.

Francis Schaeffer believed that one of the great watershed periods of human history occurred in the late sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries. The Reformation was a fifteenth and sixteenth century movement, but it was religious in nature and ultimately resulted in the formation of the Protestant churches. The Renaissance, argues Schaeffer, largely emphasized human reason and the achievements of man. In sharp contrast, the Reformation emphasized the will of God and the authority of the Holy Scriptures. It must be remembered that Schaeffer is generalizing in much of what is said here and that both movements had good and bad aspects.

Schaeffer maintains that men in the Renaissance believed they were great because of the wonderful art, literature, and architecture they produced. The Reformation man believed he was great because of the God who had made him. Man was made to have a relationship with his creator, but the Renaissance man found himself more and more concerned with the things of this world.{5}

As the emphasis on man increased, the importance of God decreased. This movement was further facilitated by discoveries in the sciences which allowed man to understand the universe on purely naturalistic principles. The result of mans success in explaining some aspects of the universe through reason alone was that he began to try to explain every aspect of the universe through reason alone.

Men found that they were able to explain much through reason, but the larger philosophical questions proved to be too great. In addition, they discovered that there were many questions that could not be answered by reason alone. Some of these questions were: How did everything begin? Why is there something rather than nothing? What happens to us after we die? These questions are traditionally answered by theology, and the answers usually included an appeal to a divine being called God.

Modern man, thus, was faced with two possibilities. Either he could return to the answers found in the Scriptures, or he could live as though life had meaning even though he did not believe that it really did.{6} Schaeffer argued that men in the Western philosophical tradition largely opted for irrational existence, escaping the requirements of reason, hence the title Escape from Reason. Schaeffers conclusion to this problem is that Christians must return to a serious belief in the Scriptures and their ability to answer the big philosophical problems, and that we must live our faith consistently in front of the world.{7} In addition, Schaeffer believed that the days are gone when the average man on the street would respond to the Gospel. The language has changed, and we must learn to speak in this new language.{8} We must educate ourselves and be ready to give an account of how modern man got into his present state of affairs.

He Is There and He Is Not Silent

In the analysis of the previous two books, we have seen that Schaeffer explains the development of modern history and how mankind has largely embraced non-reason in the area of morals. In He Is There and He Is Not Silent, Schaeffer outlines a solution for the predicament that faces modern man. He argues that there are three areas in which modern mankind has an absolute necessity for God: metaphysics, morals, and epistemology.{9} These are three areas of philosophy which have to do with, respectively, the problem of existence, the problem of mans moral behavior, and how man can come to a true knowledge of anything at all.

Prior to the seventeenth century, philosophy and theology recognized that they were dealing with the same basic questions. The only difference between the two disciplines was that the former appealed largely to reason and natural revelation, while the latter appealed mostly to reason and special revelation. In the middle ages, philosophy was said to be the handmaiden to theology. Theology was understood to be the queen of the sciences. When philosophy took the lead, it soon became apparent that it was not up to the task of answering the big questions. The reality of God known through His revelation, however, does provide the answers for such questions.

Lets consider the areas of metaphysics, moral, and epistemology. The metaphysical need for the existence of God implies that there must be something or someone who is big enough, powerful enough, wise enough, and willing enough to create and maintain the universe we live in. If these requirements are not met, then man is forced to admit that he is here by chance occurrence and has no special destiny.{10}

The moral necessity of Gods existence centers on man as a personal being and a being who distinguishes between right and wrong. There are only two options. Either man was created from an impersonal beginning and his moral system is a product of his culture, or man had a personal beginning and was given laws to follow and an internal sense of right and wrong.{11} The moral necessity of God is founded on the philosophical need to account for why man is both cruel and wonderful at the same time. This can only be explained in terms of the biblical account of the Fall.

The epistemological necessity of Gods existence addresses our ability to know what is ultimately real. Much of the modern problem in the area of knowledge began in the seventeenth century. As the scientific revolution developed, the criteria for truth became that which could be demonstrated in a laboratory. The result was that belief in God and the miraculous, which cannot be demonstrated in a laboratory, came into doubt and were eventually dismissed by many. The final result was pessimism regarding theological truths and, more recently, any truth at all. We have all encountered the individual who asks, How do you know that? And often this question is repeated for every subsequent answer.

The only answer to these three dilemmas is an appeal to the God who is there, and to His natural and special revelation. The basis of Christianity is the belief that God is there and that man can communicate with Him. If this is not true, then we are without a foundation.

Francis Schaeffer and “The Man Without a Bible”

The purpose of this discussion of the works of Francis Schaeffer is that we hope Christians will once again turn to this great apologist for the Christian faith and learn from him. In closing, we will address one of his lesser known works titled Death In The City. In chapter seven, The Man Without a Bible, Schaeffer offers some advice for Christians living in a post-Christian world. He argues very convincingly that the church in America has largely turned away from God and the knowledge of the things of God. This occurred in just a few short decades, from the 1920s to the 1960s.{12}

We must always bear in mind that many people do not believe that the Bible is inspired or authoritative. For these people the Bible is just another book. The dismantling of biblical authority has been very efficient in the last 150 years. Very few of our major secular universities treat the Bible as authoritative anymore. Yet many of these universities were founded at a time when no one would have doubted the importance of the Holy Scriptures. The majority of men at the end of this century hold vastly different views about the Bible than did their ancestors at the close of the previous century. So, how do we share the Christian message with the man without the Bible?

Schaeffer cites three instances where Paul spoke to non-Christians and did not appeal to the Scriptures. These are found in Acts 14:15-17; 17:16-32, and Romans 1:18-2:16. The reason that Paul did not use the Scriptures on these three occasions is that the people he was addressing did not recognize the claims that the Holy Scriptures made on their lives. In approaching these individuals, Paul appealed to the moral knowledge that men possess as a feature of their created being. Schaeffer refers to this as the manishness of man.

In Romans 1:18 we have the description of Gods wrath being poured out on man. Schaeffer believes that this is an ideal place to approach modern man. We may tell the modern non-believer that he knows that God exists and that he has suppressed this knowledge. (The knowledge of God must be understood here as natural revelation, and not the gospel.) Paul means that each and every man, regardless of what he says, knows that God exists. This knowledge of God that the non-believer possesses is supplemented by the moral argument for Gods existence. The fact that men hold beliefs about right and wrong betrays the fact that they know that God necessarily exists. Men willingly suppress this knowledge of God and this brings His wrath.

The man without the Bible has suppressed the natural revelation of God, not the special revelation found in the Scriptures. The man without the Bible has not followed his initial knowledge of God to the proper conclusions and therefore remains lost. The many men without the Bible present both an opportunity and a challenge for the Christian. The opportunity is that this man is lost and Christians can share their faith with him. The challenge is in showing these lost people how the world around them and the human nature within them point toward the existence of God.

Francis Schaeffer was wonderful at discussing Christian truths with non-believers without appealing to the Scriptures. It is our loss if we do not familiarize ourselves with, and use, the works of one of this countrys greatest Christian thinkers.

Notes

  1. J.I. Packer, forward to Francis A. Schaeffer Trilogy, by Francis Schaeffer (Wheaton: Crossway Publishers, 1990), xiv.
  2. Hosea 4:6.
  3. Francis Schaeffer, The God Who Is There in Francis A. Schaeffer Trilogy (Wheaton: Crossway Publishers, 1990), 109-114.
  4. Ibid., 196.
  5. Ibid., 217-224.
  6. Ibid., 225-236.
  7. Ibid., 261-270.
  8. Ibid., 207-208.
  9. Francis Schaeffer, He Is There and He Is Not Silent in Francis A. Schaeffer Trilogy (Wheaton: Crossway Publishers, 1990), 277.
  10. Ibid., 275-290.
  11. Ibid., 291-302.
  12. Ibid., 211.

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About the Author

Todd KappelmanTodd A. Kappelman is a field associate with Probe Ministries. He is a graduate of Dallas Baptist University (B.A. and M.A.B.S., religion and Greek), and the University of Dallas (M.A., philosophy/humanities). Currently he is pursuing a Ph.D. in philosophy at the University of Dallas. He has served as assistant director of the Trinity Institute, a study center devoted to Christian thought and inquiry. He has been the managing editor of The Antithesis, a bi-monthly publication devoted to the critique of foreign and independent film. His central area of expertise is Continental philosophy (especially nineteenth and twentieth century) and postmodern thought.

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… The Birth Of Israel (2008) – Part 8/8 I have posted before about the religious views of Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin. Now it appears they have rejected their agnostic statements of the past and have decided to raise their children in the Jewish faith. Here is a post from the Huffington Post: After […]

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Open letter to Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin concerning their choice to raise their kids in the Jewish Faith (part 6)

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Open letter to Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin concerning their choice to raise their kids in the Jewish Faith (part 5)

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Open letter to Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin concerning their choice to raise their kids in the Jewish Faith (part 4)

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Open letter to President Obama (Part 428) More guns lead to less crime?

(Emailed to White House on 1-31-13.)

President Obama c/o The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President,

I know that you receive 20,000 letters a day and that you actually read 10 of them every day. I really do respect you for trying to get a pulse on what is going on out here.

After reading this article below I learned  anti-gun laws facilitated the terrorist attack at Fort Hood and gun control made Jamaica a more dangerous country.It is a very fine article and I really enjoyed it.

Only the Media Is Baffled by the Notion that More Guns Lead to Less Crime

November 27, 2012 by Dan Mitchell

I don’t like to spend much time commenting on media bias. But every so often I find an example that cries out for attention.

In previous posts, I’ve discussed this slanted AP story on poverty, the Brian Ross Tea Party slur, this example of implicit bias by USA Today, and a Reuters report on job creation and so-called stimulus.

And I’ve also commented on a Washington Post story that turned a spending cut molehill into a “spending slash” mountain, a silly assertion in the New York Times that education spending has been reduced, and a Washington post claim that Germany is fiscally conservative.

The latest example comes from the Associated Press, which is mystified that crime is falling “despite” record firearm sales.

Gun-related violence has fallen steadily since 2006 in Virginia despite record firearm sales, according to a university professor’s analysis. Virginia Commonwealth University professor Thomas R. Baker compared state crime data from 2006 through 2011 with gun-dealer sales estimates obtained by the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Baker’s analysis shows the number of gun purchases soared 73 percent in the six-year period, while gun-related violent crimes fell 24 percent. Baker, who specializes in research methods and criminology theory, said the comparison seems to contradict the premise that more guns lead to more crime in Virginia.

Gee, there are more innocent people with guns and people are surprised that criminals are now more reluctant to commit crimes? I guess you have to be a reporter or an academic to be surprised by this common-sense observation.

John Lott, of course, wrote an entire book called More Guns, Less Crime. It’s very much worth reading. These posts will give you a flavor of his analysis:

Shifting back to the topic of media bias, let’s close this post by sharing some amusing cartoons, which can be enjoyed here, here, and here.

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Thank you so much for your time. I know how valuable it is. I also appreciate the fine family that you have and your commitment as a father and a husband.

Sincerely,

Everette Hatcher III, 13900 Cottontail Lane, Alexander, AR 72002, ph 501-920-5733, lowcostsqueegees@yahoo.com

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Funny gun control posters!!!

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The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg abandons his liberal friends on gun control.

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Gun control arguments very logical?

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Charlie Collins versus Max Brantley on Gun Control

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Bob Costas needs to think gun control logic through

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Gun Control cartoon hits the internet

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Dan Mitchell takes on gun control nuts!!!

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Could Dark Knight mass murder in Colorado been avoided by more gun control?

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Cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog that demonstrate how stupid government can be

I have put up lots of cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog before and they have got lots of hits before. Many of them have dealt with the economy, eternal unemployment benefits, socialism,  Greece,  welfare state or on gun control.

I’ve written about the government’s war on consumer-friendly light bulbs (and also similar attacks on working toilets and washing machines that actually clean), so I’m generally not surprised by bureaucratic nonsense.

But even I’m shocked the federal government gave an affordability award for a light bulb that costs $50. I’m not making this up. Here’s a blurb from ABC News.

The U.S. government has awarded appliance-maker Philips $10 million for devising an “affordable” alternative to today’s standard 60-watt incandescent bulb. That standard bulb sells for around $1. The Philips alternative sells for $50. Of course, the award-winner is no ordinary bulb. It uses only one-sixth the energy of an incandescent. And it lasts 30,000 hours–about 30 times as long. In fact, if you don’t drop it, it may last 10 years or more. But only the U.S. Government (in this case, the Department of Energy) could view a $50 bulb as cheap.

Isn’t that wonderful? My tax dollars were used to reward a company that produced a light bulb I can’t afford.

Lisa Benson has a very good cartoon about this light bulb, as well as the less-than-shocking news that Obamacare will be more costly than originally forecast.

If you like Lisa’s work, there are some other good examples here and here.

Last but not least, I’m up in New York City for an investment funds conference about the Cayman Islands. Not a bad view from my window, though you need to click on the image to get a good idea of what I woke up to.

Too bad the state and the city are high-tax hell holes.

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Funny cartoon from Dan Mitchell’s blog on Greece

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Obama on creating jobs!!!!(Funny Cartoon)

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Figuring out Lorde’s Christian Roots Part 12 (UPDATED)

Figuring out Lorde’s Christian Roots Part 12

UPDATED (David Bruce commented “She didn’t say she was a big Jesus believer. She said she was a big Yeezus believer. Which is a Kanye West album. Which incidentally is a blasphemous, hateful piece of garbage from what I’ve heard of it.” This sets me straight concerning what Lorde said in the video that I saw. She did not say that she was a “big Jesus believer.” )

Lorde performing “The Love Club” Live on KCRW

Published on Aug 9, 2013

Lorde is a sensation in her native New Zealand and the 16-year-old singer is making quite a splash on our coast as well. Her vocal and lyrical prowess at such a young age is impressive, as she gives us snapshots of her teenage life. We’re excited for her Morning Becomes Eclectic

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It is hard to figure out this New Zealand newcomer and her Christian roots but I am going to attempt to in this series of posts. Here is an interview where she describes herself as a “big Jesus believer.”

One way to get a better idea about a person is to take a closer look at their lyrics. Here is a discussion about one of Lorde’s songs that I really like.

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Here are the lyrics to the “Love Club.”

I’m in a clique but I want out
It’s not the same as when I was punched
In the old days there was enough
The card games and ease with the bitter salt of blood
I was in but I want out
My mother’s love is choking me
I’m sick of words that hang above my head
What about the kid? It’s time the kid got free

Be a part of the love club
Everything will glow for you
You’ll get punched for the love club
For the love club

I joined the club and it’s all on
There are fights for being my best friend
And the girls get their claws out
There’s something about hanging out with the wicked kids
Take the pill make it too ill
The other day I forgot my old address
I’m sitting pretty on the throne
There’s nothing more I want
Except to be alone

Be a part of the love club
Everything will glow for you
You’ll get punched for the love club
For the love club

Your clothes are soaked and you don’t know where to go
So drop your chin and take yourself back home
And roll out your maps and papers
Find out your hiding places again
The only problem that I got with the club
Is how you’re severed from the people who watched you grow up
When you’re a member go on your great adventure again
They will be waiting at the end

Be a part of the love club
Everything will glow for you
You’ll get punched for the love club
For the love club

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My Interpretation:You know when you feel so alone in the middle of an existential crisis? I think this song could be about any kind of vice, an abusive relationship or even of joining a drug dealing violent gang. It could really be about anything, like when you trade everything for just a little bit of fun. Joining this “club” was fun when you first started doing it (maybe drugs, maybe when you started going out with somebody, maybe you started gambling and you were winning) thats why Lorde says :Be part of the love club, everything will glow for you” sounds inviting right?

but then everything turns around and it starts getting out of control (youve become an addict, the relationship turned out abusive and leeched you dry, you gambled all your money) and now youre hitting rock bottom even though you were even in “the throne” and have to become humble to get your family back and all your life like before.

It puts so much emphasis in “you’ll get punched for the love club, for the love club” that at the end what the stupid metaphorical “love club” wasn’t even what YOU wanted in the first place.

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The Law and the Law of Love by Francis Schaeffer

Episode VII – The Age of Non Reason

I love the works of Francis Schaeffer and I have been on the internet reading several blogs that talk about Schaeffer’s work and the work below was really helpful. Schaeffer’s film series “How should we then live?  Wikipedia notes, “According to Schaeffer, How Should We Then Live traces Western history from Ancient Rome until the time of writing (1976) along three lines: the philosophic, scientific, and religious.[3] He also makes extensive references to art and architecture as a means of showing how these movements reflected changing patterns of thought through time. Schaeffer’s central premise is: when we base society on the Bible, on the infinite-personal God who is there and has spoken,[4] this provides an absolute by which we can conduct our lives and by which we can judge society.  Here are some posts I have done on this series: Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 10 “Final Choices” , episode 9 “The Age of Personal Peace and Affluence”, episode 8 “The Age of Fragmentation”, episode 7 “The Age of Non-Reason” , episode 6 “The Scientific Age” ,  episode 5 “The Revolutionary Age” , episode 4 “The Reformation”,  episode 3 “The Renaissance”, episode 2 “The Middle Ages,”, and  episode 1 “The Roman Age,” .

By Francis A. Schaeffer
The question before us is what the Christian life, true spirituality, really is,
and how it may be lived in a twentieth-century setting.
The first point that we must make is that it is impossible even to begin
living the Christian life, or to know anything of true spirituality, before one
is a Christian. And the only way to become a Christian is neither by trying to
live some sort of a Christian life nor by hoping for some sort of religious
experience, but rather by accepting Christ as Savior. No matter how complicated,
educated, or sophisticated we may be, or how simple we may be, we
must all come the same way, insofar as becoming a Christian is concerned.
As the kings of the earth and the mighty of the earth are born in exactly the
same way, physically, as the simplest man, so the most intellectual person
must become a Christian in exactly the same way as the simplest person.
This is true for all men everywhere, through all space and all time. There are
no exceptions. Jesus said a totally exclusive word: “No man cometh unto the
Father, but by me” (John 14:6).The reason for this is that all men are separated from God because of
their true moral guilt. God exists, God has a character, God is a holy God;
and when men sin (and we all must acknowledge we have sinned not only by
mistake but by intention), they have true moral guilt before the God who
exists. That guilt is not just the modern concept of guilt-feelings, a psychological
guilty feeling in man. It is a true moral guilt before the infinite-
personal, holy God. Only the finished, substitutionary work of Christ
upon the cross as the Lamb of God-in history, space, and time-is enough
to remove this. Our true guilt, that brazen heaven which stands between us
and God, can be removed only upon the basis of the finished work of Christ
plus nothing on our part. The Bible’s whole emphasis is that there must be
no humanistic note added at any point in the accepting of the gospel. It is
the infinite value of the finished work of Christ, the second person of the
Trinity, upon the cross plus nothing that is the sole basis for the removal ofour guilt. When we thus come, believing God, the Bible says we are declared
justified by God, the guilt is gone, and we are returned to fellowship with
God-the very thing for which we were created in the first place.
Just as the only basis for the removal of our guilt is the finished work of
Christ upon the cross in history, plus nothing, so the only instrument for
accepting that finished work of Christ upon the cross is faith. This is not
faith in the twentieth-century or Kierkegaardian concept of faith as a jump
in the dark-not a solution on the basis of faith in faith. It is believing the
specific promises of God; no longer turning our backs on them, no longer
calling God a liar, but raising the empty hands of faith and accepting that
finished work of Christ as it was fulfilled in history upon the cross. The Bible
says that at that moment we pass from death to life, from the kingdom of
darkness to the kingdom of God’s dear Son. We become, individually, children
of God. We are children of God from that time on. I repeat, there is no
way to begin the Christian life except through the door of spiritual birth,
any more than there is any other way to begin physical life except through
the door of physical birth.Yet, having said this about the beginning of the Christian life, we must
also realize that while the new birth is necessary as the beginning, it is only
the beginning. We must not think that because we have accepted Christ as
Savior and are therefore Christians, this is all there is in the Christian life. In
one way physical birth is the most important part in our physical life,
because we are not alive in the external world until we have been born. In
another way, however, it is the least important of all the aspects of our life,
because it is only the beginning and then it is past. After we are born, the
important thing is the living of our life in all its relationships, possibilities,
and capabilities. It is exactly the same with the new birth. In one way, the
new birth is the most important thing in our spiritual life, because we are
not Christians until we have come this way. In another way, however, after
one has become a Christian, it must be minimized, in that we should not
always have our mind only on our new birth. The important thing after
being born spiritually is to live. There is a new birth, and then there is the
Christian life to be lived. This is the area of sanctification, from the time of
the new birth through this present life, until Jesus comes or until we die.
Often, after a person is born again and asks, “What shall I do next?” he
is given a list of things, usually of a limited nature and primarily negative.
Often he is given the idea that if he does not do this series of things (whatever
this series of things happens to be in the particular country and location

and at the time he happens to live), he will be spiritual. This is not so. The
true Christian life, true spirituality, is not merely a negative not-doing of any
small list of things. Even if the list began as a very excellent list of things to
beware of in that particular historic setting, we still must emphasize that the
Christian life, or true spirituality, is more than refraining from a certain list
of external taboos in a mechanical way.

Because this is true, there almost always comes into being another
group of Christians that rises up and begins to work against such a list of
taboos; thus, there is a tendency toward a struggle in Christian circles
between those who set up a certain list of taboos and those who, feeling
there is something wrong with this, say, “Away with all taboos, away with all
lists.” Both of these groups can be right and both can be wrong, depending
on how they approach the matter.

I was impressed by this on one Saturday night at L’Abri, when we were
having one of our discussion times. On that particular night everybody
present was a Christian, many of them from groups in countries where
“lists” had been very much accentuated. They began to talk against the use
of taboos, and at first as I listened to them I rather agreed with them, in the
direction they were going. But as I listened further to this conversation, and
as they spoke against the taboos in their own countries, it became quite clear
to me that what they really wanted was merely to be able to do the things
that the taboos were against. What they really wanted was a more lax Christian
life. But we must see that in giving up such lists, in feeling the limitation
of the “list” mentality, we must not do this merely in order to be able to live a
looser life; it must be for something deeper. So I think both sides of this discussion
can be right and both sides can be wrong. We do not come to true
spirituality or the true Christian life merely by keeping a list, but neither do
we come to it merely by rejecting the list and then shrugging our shoulders
and living a looser life.

If we are considering outward things in relation to true spirituality, we
are face-to-face not with some small list, but with the whole Ten Commandments
and all of God’s other commands. In other words, if I see the
list as a screen, and I say this small list is trite, dead, and cheap, and I take
hold of the screen and lift it away, then I am not face-to-face with a looser
thing; I am face-to-face with the whole Ten Commandments and all that is
included in them. I am also face-to-face with what we might call the Law of
Love, the fact that I am to love God and I am to love my fellowman.
In the book of Romans, in the fourteenth chapter, verse fifteen, we read:

“But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably.
Destroy not him with thy meat, forwhomChrist died.” This is the law of God.
In a very real sense there is no liberty here. It is an absolute declaration that we
are to do this. It is perfectly true that we cannot be saved by doing this, we cannot
do this in our own strength, and none of us do this perfectly in this life.
Nevertheless, it is an imperative. It is the absolute command of God. The
same thing is true in 1 Corinthians 8:12-13: “But when ye sin so against the
brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore,
if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world
standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.” Therefore, when I take hold of
the screen of a trite list and say, “This is too superficial,” and I push it aside, I
must see what I amdoing. I amnot now confronted with a libertine concept,
but I am confronted with the whole Ten Commandments and with the Law
of Love. So even if we are dealing only with outward commands, we have not
moved into a looser life; we have moved into something much more profound
and heart-searching. As a matter of fact, when we are done with our
honest wrestling before God, very often we will find that we will be observing
at least some of the taboos on these lists. But having gone deeper, we find that
we will be observing them for a completely different reason. Curiously
enough we often come around in a circle through our liberty, through the study
of the deeper teaching, and find we do want to keep these things. But now not
for the same reason-that of social pressure. It is no longer merely a matter of
holding to an accepted list in order that Christians will think well of us.
However, eventually the Christian life and true spirituality are not to
be seen as outward at all, but inward. The climax of the Ten Commandments
is the tenth commandment in Exodus 20:17: “Thou shalt not covet
thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant,
nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy
neighbor’s.” The commandment not to covet is an entirely inward thing.
Coveting is never an outward thing, from the very nature of the case. It is an
intriguing factor that this is the last command that God gives us in the Ten
Commandments and thus the hub of the whole matter. The end of the
whole thing is that we arrive at an inward situation and not merely an outward
one. Actually, we break this last commandment, not to covet, before
we break any of the others. Any time that we break one of the other commandments
of God, it means that we have already broken this commandment
in coveting. It also means that any time we break one of the others, we
break this last commandment as well. So no matter which of the other Ten
Commandments you break, you break two: the commandment itself, and
this commandment not to covet. This is the hub of the wheel.

In Romans 7:7-9, Paul states very clearly that this was the commandment
which gave him a sense of being sinful:
What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not
known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust except the law
had said, Thou shalt not covet. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment,
wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without
the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but
when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Now he did not mean he was perfect before; this is clear from what
Paul has said. What he is saying here is, “I did not know I was a sinner; I
thought I would come out all right, because I was keeping these outward
things and was getting along all right in comparison with other people.” He
would have been measuring himself against the externalized form of the
commandments that the Jews had in their tradition. But when he opened
the Ten Commandments and read that the last commandment was not to
covet, he saw he was a sinner. When did this take place? He does not tell us,
but personally I feel that God was working inwardly in him and making him
feel this lack even before the experience on the Damascus road-that
already he had seen he was a sinner and had been troubled in the light of the
tenth commandment-and then Christ spoke to him.

Coveting is the negative side of the positive commands, “Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all
thy mind. . . . [And] thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Matthew
22:37, 39).

Love is internal, not external. There can be external manifestations,
but love itself will always be an internal factor. Coveting is always internal;
the external manifestation is a result. We must see that to love God with all
the heart, mind, and soul is not to covet against God; and to love man, to
love our neighbor as ourselves, is not to covet against man. When I do not
love the Lord as I should, I amcoveting against the Lord. And when I do not
love my neighbor as I should, I am coveting against him.

“Thou shalt not covet” is the internal commandment that shows the
man who thinks himself to be moral that he really needs a Savior. The
average such “moral” man, who has lived comparing himself to other men
and comparing himself to a rather easy list of rules (even if they cause him
some pain and difficulty), can feel, like Paul, that he is getting along all
right. But suddenly, when he is confronted with the inward command not
to covet, he is brought to his knees. It is exactly the same with us as Christians.
This is a very central concept if we are to have any understanding or
any real practice of the true Christian life or true spirituality. I can take
lists that men make and I can seem to keep them, but to do that, my heart
does not have to be bowed. But when I come to the inward aspect of the
Ten Commandments, when I come to the inward aspect of the Law of
Love, if I am listening even in a poor fashion to the direction of the Holy
Spirit, I can no longer feel proud. I am brought to my knees. In this life I
can never say, “I have arrived; it is finished; look at me-I am holy.” When
we talk of the Christian life or true spirituality, when we talk about freedom
from the bonds of sin, we must be wrestling with the inward problems
of not coveting against God and men, of loving God and men, and
not merely some set of externals.

This immediately raises a question. Does this mean that any desire is
coveting and therefore sinful? The Bible makes plain that this is not so-all
desire is not sin. So then the question arises, when does proper desire become
coveting? I think we can put the answer down simply: desire becomes sin when
it fails to include love of God or men. Further, I think there are two practical
tests as to when we are coveting against God or men; first, I am to love God
enough to be contented; second, I am to love men enough not to envy.
Let us pursue these two tests. First, in regard to God: I amto love God
enough to be contented, because otherwise even our natural and proper
desires bring us into revolt against God. God has made us with proper
desires, but if there is not a proper contentment on my part, to this extent I
am in revolt against God, and of course revolt is the whole central problem
of sin. When I lack proper contentment, either I have forgotten that God is
God, or I have ceased to be submissive to him. We are now speaking about a
practical test to judge if we are coveting against God. A quiet disposition and
a heart giving thanks at any given moment is the real test of the extent to
which we love God at that moment. I would like to give some strong words
to you from the Bible to remind us that this is God’s own standard for Christians:
“But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be
once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish
talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient; but rather giving of thanks”
(Ephesians 5:3-4).

Thus, the “giving of thanks” is in contrast to the whole, black list that
stands above. In Ephesians 5:20 it is even stronger: “Giving thanks always
for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
How inclusive are the “all things” for which we are to give thanks? These
same “all things” are also mentioned in the book of Romans: “And we know
that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who
are the called according to his purpose” (8:28). This is not a kind of magic-
the infinite-personal God promises that he will work all things together for
the Christian’s good.

Here I am told that if I am a true Christian, “all things” work
together for my good. It is not all things except the sorrow; it is not all
things except the battle. We throw the words “all things” in Romans 8:28
around all things.We do honor to God and the finished work of Christ as
we throw that circle around the whole; all things work together for good to
those “who love God,” for those “who are the called according to his purpose.”
But to the extent to which we properly throw the term “all things”
around all things, it carries with it also the “all things” of Ephesians 5:20:
“Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father. . . .”We cannot
separate these two. The “all things” of Ephesians 5:20 is as wide as the
“all things” of Romans 8:28. It must be giving of thanks for all things-this
is God’s standard.

Philippians deals with this also. In Philippians 4:6 we read, “Be careful
for nothing; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving
let your requests be made known unto God.”

“Be careful for nothing” here means: Do not be overcome by care in
anything, by worry in anything, but rather “by prayer and supplication with
thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.” Of course, this is
a statement concerning prayer in contrast to the worry, but at the same time
it carries with it the direct command to thank God in the midst of the prayer
for the “everything.” Or we may note Colossians 2:7: “Rooted and built up
in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding
therein with thanksgiving.” You will notice this is linked to the sixth verse:
“As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him.”
What does it mean to walk in Christ? It is to be “rooted and built up in him,
and established in the faith.” (And there are many of us who think this is by
faith; the instrument to do this is faith) “Abounding therein with
thanksgiving”; the final note is on the thanksgiving.

Then we find in Colossians 3:15: “And let the peace of God rule in your
hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.” And
verse 17: “And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the
Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.” And again in
Colossians 4:2: “Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving.”
These words about thanksgiving are, in one sense, hard words. They
are beautiful, but they do not give us any room to move-the “all things”
includes all things.

Weread in 1 Thessalonians 5:18: “In every thing give thanks: for this is
the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.” And this is linked to the
next verse, verse 19: “Quench not the Spirit.” Surely one thing is clear. God
says to us: in everything give thanks.

I think we can see all this in its proper perspective if we go back to
Romans 1:21: “Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as
God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and
their foolish heart was darkened.” This is the central point: They were not
thankful. Instead of giving thanks they “became vain in their imaginations,
and their foolish heart was darkened.” Professing themselves to be wise,
they became fools. The beginning of man’s rebellion against God was, and
is, the lack of a thankful heart. They did not have proper, thankful hearts-
seeing themselves as creatures before the Creator and being bowed not only
in their knees, but in their stubborn hearts. The rebellion is a deliberate
refusal to be the creature before the Creator, to the extent of being thankful.
Love must carry with it a “thank-you,” not in a superficial or “official” way,
but in being thankful and saying in the mind or with the voice “Thank you”
to God. As we shall see later, this is not to be confused with failing to stand
against what is cruel in the world as it now is, but it does mean having a
thankful heart toward the God who is there.

Two things are immediately involved here, if we are to see this in the
Christian framework rather than in a non-Christian one. The first is that as
Christians we say we live in a personal universe, in the sense that it was created
by a personal God. Now that we have accepted Christ as our Savior,
God the Father is our Father. When we say we live in a personal universe and
God the Father is our Father, to the extent that we have less than a trusting
attitude we are denying what we say we believe. We say that, as Christians,
we have by choice taken the place of creatures before the Creator, but as we
show a lack of trust, we are exhibiting that at that moment, in practice, we
have not really so chosen.

The second thing we must comprehend in order to understand a contented
heart in the Christian framework, rather than in a non-Christian
one, is illustrated by Camus’s dilemma in The Plague. As Christians we say
we live in a supernatural universe and that there is a battle, since the fall of
man, and that this battle is in both the seen world and the unseen world.
This is what we say we believe; we insist on this against the naturalists and
against the anti-supernaturalists. If we really believe this, first, we can be
contented and yet fight evil, and second, surely it is God’s right to put us as
Christians where he judges best in the battle.

In a Christian understanding of contentment, we must see contentment
in relation to these things. To summarize, there is a personal God. He
is my Father since I have accepted Christ as my Savior. Then surely when I
lack trust, I amdenying what I say I believe. At the same time, I say there is a
battle in the universe, and God is God. Then, if I lack trust, what I amreally
doing is denying in practice that he has a right, as my God, to use me where
he wants in the spiritual battle that exists in the seen and the unseen world.
The trust and contentment must be in the Christian framework, but in the
proper framework the contentment is deeply important.

If the contentment goes and the giving of thanks goes, we are not loving
God as we should, and proper desire has become coveting against God.
This inward area is the first place of loss of true spirituality. The outward is
always just a result of it.

The second test as to when proper desire becomes coveting is that we
should love men enough not to envy, and this is not only envy for money; it is
for everything. It can, for instance, be envy of his spiritual gifts. There is a simple
test for this. Natural desires have become coveting against a fellow creature,
one of our kind, a fellow man, when we have a mentality that would give
us secret satisfaction at his misfortune. If a man has something, and he loses it,
do we have an inward pleasure? A secret satisfaction at his loss? Do not speak
too quickly and say it is never so, because you will make yourself a liar. We
must all admit that even when we get on in our Christian life, even in these
areas where we say we are longing for the church of Jesus Christ to be more
alive in our generation, often we have this awful secret satisfaction at the loss
of other men, even at the loss of brothers in Christ. Now if this mentality is
upon me, in any way, then my natural desires have become coveting. I am
inwardly coveting, and I am not loving men as I should.
Inward coveting-lack of love toward men-soon tends to spill over
into the external world. It cannot be kept in the internal world completely.

This occurs in various degrees. When I have a wrong regret that others have
what I do not possess, and this regret is allowed to grow, very quickly it
comes to make me dislike the person himself. Surely we all have felt this. As
the Holy Spirit makes us increasingly honest with ourselves, we must
acknowledge that often we have a dislike of a person because we have had
wrong desire toward something of his. More than this, if I would be happy if
he were to lose something, the next step in the external world is moving
either subtly or more openly to cause him to have the loss, either in lying
about him, stealing from him, or whatever it may be.

In 1 Corinthians 10:23-24 I amtold that my longing in love should be
to seek for the other man’s good and not just my own: “All things are lawful
for me, but all things edify not. Let no man seek his own, but every man
another’s wealth.” And the same is true in 1 Corinthians 13:4-5: “Charity
suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is
not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own. . . .”
When we read these things and understand that failure in these areas
is really coveting, a lack of love, every one of us must be upon his knees as
Paul was upon his knees when he saw the commandment not to covet; it
destroys any superficial view of the Christian life.

These are the areas of true spirituality. These are the areas of true
Christian living. They are not basically external; they are internal, they are
deep; they go down into the areas of our lives we like to hide from ourselves.
The inward area is the first place of loss of true Christian life, of true spirituality,
and the outward sinful act is the result. If we can only get hold of
this-that the internal is the basic, the external is always merely the
result-it will be a tremendous starting place.

However, true spirituality, the Christian life, is even one step beyond
this. So far we have moved from the concept of a small, limited list of things to
the whole Ten Commandments and the whole Law of Love. And then we
have moved from the external to the internal. But in both of these cases we
have dealt largely with that which is negative. But true spirituality, the Christian
life, is deeper than even a profound concept of a proper negative. True
spirituality, the true Christian life, is finally positive. We have touched on this
in “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,
and with all thy mind,” and “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Matthew
22:37, 39). But let us now especially emphasize that true spirituality, that
true Christian life, is not even simply the proper negative in the deepest
realms of our being. There is a biblical negative and then a positive.

As this study goes on, we shall deal more extensively with the following
passages, but let us look at them quickly at this stage. Romans 6:4 is a biblical
negative (and the tenses I read are the tenses as they are in Greek rather than
the way they are translated in our King James translation): “Therefore we
were buried with him by baptism into death.” This is a negative.Wewere buried
with him by baptism into death. We find the same thing in the first part of
the sixth verse: “Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him.”
When I accepted Christ as Savior, when God as Judge declared me justified,
these things became legally true. My call in the Christian life is to see them
become true in my life in practice. In Galatians 2:20 we find the same thing
with a negative emphasis: “I have been crucified with Christ.”

These negatives must never be overlooked, either in justification or
the Christian life, or we will not be able to understand the following
positives. In Galatians 6:14 we have this word: “But God forbid that I should
glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [or whereby] the
world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” This is a tremendously
strong negative. And this is not to be just a theoretical proposition; it is to be
(as we shall see later) practiced, by the grace of God. There is a place, therefore,
for a true biblical negative. But now let us go on and notice that the
Christian life, true spirituality, does not stop with this negative. There is a
positive.

So in Galatians 2:20 again, “I am crucified with Christ.” Then there
comes a break in the verse. In my own Bible I have marked it with two little
lines, so that the break would be strongly apparent to me, even in a quick
reading: “I have been crucified with Christ: [break] nevertheless I live; yet
not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live
by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.” So
although there is a negative, it swept over into a positive, and to stop at the
negative is to miss the whole point. The true Christian life is not an external
life, or thought-life, of basic negatives; it is not hating life, in the way that we
are apt to do when we get into despondency or other psychological problems.
The Christian negative is not a nihilist negative-there is a true biblical
negative-but the Christian life does not stop with a negative. There is a
true life in the present as well as in the future.

In the book of Romans we feel the same force (6:4): “Therefore we
were buried with him by baptism into death; that like as Christ was raised up
from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness
of life.” This is the way it should be read: that “we may walk in newness
of life.” This is it; there is a positive. There is a possibility of walking in newness
of life in the present life, right now, between the new birth and our
death, or the second coming of Jesus. In Romans 6:6 it is the same:
“Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, in order that the
body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.” So
we died with Christ, but we rose with Christ. That is the emphasis. Christ’s
death is a historic fact in the past, and we will be raised from the dead in
future history, but there is to be a positive exhibition in present history,
now, before our future resurrection. As an illustration, we read the negative
in Galatians 5:15: “But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye
be not consumed one of another.” He is talking of Christians. This is a negative.
But there is a positive (verse 14): “For all the law is fulfilled in one word,
even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.” And there is also a
positive in verses 22 and 23 of the same chapter: “But the fruit of the Spirit is
love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance:
against such there is no law.” So the context leads us from the negative
to the positive in our considerations of the Christian life.

In summary then, of this chapter, which is an introduction to all that
follows:
1. The true Christian life, true spirituality, does not just mean that we
have been born again. It must begin there, but it means much more
than that. It does not mean only that we are going to be in heaven.
It does mean that, but it means much more than that. The true
Christian life, true spirituality in the present life, means more than
being justified and knowing that I am going to heaven.
2. It is not just a desire to get rid of taboos in order to live an easier and
a looser life. Our desire must be for a deeper life. And when I begin
to think of this, the Bible presents to me the whole of the Ten Commandments
and the whole of the Law of Love.
3. True spirituality, the true Christian life, is not just outward, but it
is inward-it is not to covet against God and men.
4. But it is even more than this: it is positive-positive in inward reality,
and then positive in outward results. The inward thing is to be
positive and not just negative; and then sweeping out of the inward
positive reality, there is to be a positive manifestation externally. It
is not just that we are dead to certain things, but we are to love God,
we are to be alive to him, we are to be in communion with him, in
this present moment of history. And we are to love men, to be alive to
men as men, and to be in communication on a true personal level
with men, in this present moment of history.

When I speak of the Christian life, or freedom from the bonds of sin,
or of true spirituality, the four points listed above are what the Bible says we
should mean, and anything less than this is trifling with God-trifling with
him who created the world, and trifling also with him who died on the cross.
This is what we are to have in mind when we begin such a study; otherwise,
there is no use even beginning to talk about experiential freedom from the
bonds of sin or about an experiential reality of the Christian life, of true spirituality.
If this is not in our minds, at least in some poor comprehension and
at least in some poor aspiration, we might as well stop. Anything else is trifling
with God, and because it is trifling with God, it is sin.

Copyright © 1971, From True Spirituality by Francis Schaeffer,

Francis A. Schaeffer Institute of Church Leadership Development  www.churchleadership.org

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Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 10 “Final Choices” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 1 0   Dr. Francis Schaeffer – Episode X – Final Choices 27 min FINAL CHOICES I. Authoritarianism the Only Humanistic Social Option One man or an elite giving authoritative arbitrary absolutes. A. Society is sole absolute in absence of other absolutes. B. But society has to be […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 9 “The Age of Personal Peace and Affluence” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 9 Dr. Francis Schaeffer – Episode IX – The Age of Personal Peace and Affluence 27 min T h e Age of Personal Peace and Afflunce I. By the Early 1960s People Were Bombarded From Every Side by Modern Man’s Humanistic Thought II. Modern Form of Humanistic Thought Leads […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 8 “The Age of Fragmentation” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 8 Dr. Francis Schaeffer – Episode VIII – The Age of Fragmentation 27 min I saw this film series in 1979 and it had a major impact on me. T h e Age of FRAGMENTATION I. Art As a Vehicle Of Modern Thought A. Impressionism (Monet, Renoir, Pissarro, Sisley, […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 7 “The Age of Non-Reason” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 7 Dr. Francis Schaeffer – Episode VII – The Age of Non Reason I am thrilled to get this film series with you. I saw it first in 1979 and it had such a big impact on me. Today’s episode is where we see modern humanist man act […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 6 “The Scientific Age” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 6 How Should We Then Live 6#1 Uploaded by NoMirrorHDDHrorriMoN on Oct 3, 2011 How Should We Then Live? Episode 6 of 12 ________ I am sharing with you a film series that I saw in 1979. In this film Francis Schaeffer asserted that was a shift in […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 5 “The Revolutionary Age” (Schaeffer Sundays)

E P I S O D E 5 How Should We Then Live? Episode 5: The Revolutionary Age I was impacted by this film series by Francis Schaeffer back in the 1970′s and I wanted to share it with you. Francis Schaeffer noted, “Reformation Did Not Bring Perfection. But gradually on basis of biblical teaching there […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 4 “The Reformation” (Schaeffer Sundays)

Dr. Francis Schaeffer – Episode IV – The Reformation 27 min I was impacted by this film series by Francis Schaeffer back in the 1970′s and I wanted to share it with you. Schaeffer makes three key points concerning the Reformation: “1. Erasmian Christian humanism rejected by Farel. 2. Bible gives needed answers not only as to […]

“Schaeffer Sundays” Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 3 “The Renaissance”

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 3 “The Renaissance” Francis Schaeffer: “How Should We Then Live?” (Episode 3) THE RENAISSANCE I was impacted by this film series by Francis Schaeffer back in the 1970′s and I wanted to share it with you. Schaeffer really shows why we have so […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 2 “The Middle Ages” (Schaeffer Sundays)

  Francis Schaeffer: “How Should We Then Live?” (Episode 2) THE MIDDLE AGES I was impacted by this film series by Francis Schaeffer back in the 1970′s and I wanted to share it with you. Schaeffer points out that during this time period unfortunately we have the “Church’s deviation from early church’s teaching in regard […]

Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 1 “The Roman Age” (Schaeffer Sundays)

Francis Schaeffer: “How Should We Then Live?” (Episode 1) THE ROMAN AGE   Today I am starting a series that really had a big impact on my life back in the 1970′s when I first saw it. There are ten parts and today is the first. Francis Schaeffer takes a look at Rome and why […]

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 5) TRUTH AND HISTORY

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 5) TRUTH AND HISTORY Published on Oct 7, 2012 by AdamMetropolis This crucial series is narrated by the late Dr. Francis Schaeffer and former Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop. Today, choices are being made that undermine human rights at their most basic level. Practices once […]

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 4) THE BASIS FOR HUMAN DIGNITY

The opening song at the beginning of this episode is very insightful. Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 4) THE BASIS FOR HUMAN DIGNITY Published on Oct 7, 2012 by AdamMetropolis This crucial series is narrated by the late Dr. Francis Schaeffer and former Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop. Today, choices […]

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 3) DEATH BY SOMEONE’S CHOICE

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 3) DEATH BY SOMEONE’S CHOICE Published on Oct 6, 2012 by AdamMetropolis This crucial series is narrated by the late Dr. Francis Schaeffer and former Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop. Today, choices are being made that undermine human rights at their most basic level. Practices […]

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race?” (Episode 2) SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENTS

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race?” (Episode 2) SLAUGHTER OF THE INNOCENTS Published on Oct 6, 2012 by AdamMetropolis This crucial series is narrated by the late Dr. Francis Schaeffer and former Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop. Today, choices are being made that undermine human rights at their most basic level. Practices […]

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 1) ABORTION OF THE HUMAN RACE

It is not possible to know where the pro-life evangelicals are coming from unless you look at the work of the person who inspired them the most. That person was Francis Schaeffer.  I do care about economic issues but the pro-life issue is the most important to me. Several years ago Adrian Rogers (past president of […]

The following essay explores the role that Francis Schaeffer played in the rise of the pro-life movement. It examines the place of How Should We Then Live?, Whatever Happened to the Human Race?, and A Christian Manifesto in that process.

This essay below is worth the read. Schaeffer, Francis – “Francis Schaeffer and the Pro-Life Movement” [How Should We Then Live?, Whatever Happened to the Human Race?, A Christian Manifesto] Editor note: <p> </p> [The following essay explores the role that Francis Schaeffer played in the rise of the pro-life movement.  It examines the place of […]

Cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog that demonstrate what Obama is doing to our economy

I have put up lots of cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog before and they have got lots of hits before. Many of them have dealt with the economy, eternal unemployment benefits, socialism,  Greece,  welfare state or on gun control.

I praised Michael Ramirez a few days ago for his clever political cartoons, so it’s time to “spread the wealth” and draw attention to a couple of superb cartoons by Chuck Asay (I think his hometown paper is the Colorado Springs Gazette).

Since I’ve bashed the biased and inaccurate work of the Congressional Budget Office, I found this cartoon very amusing.

And this cartoon on business taxation is very appropriate after yesterday’s post about a potential corporate tax rate reduction from the Obama Administration.

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Cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog that demonstrate what Obama is doing to our economy Part 2

Max Brantley is wrong about Tom Cotton’s accusation concerning the rise of welfare spending under President Obama. Actually welfare spending has been increasing for the last 12 years and Obama did nothing during his first four years to slow down the rate of increase of welfare spending. Rachel Sheffield of the Heritage Foundation has noted: […]

Cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog that demonstrate what Obama is doing to our economy Part 1

  I have put up lots of cartoons from Dan Mitchell’s blog before and they have got lots of hits before. Many of them have dealt with the economy, eternal unemployment benefits, socialism,  Greece,  welfare state or on gun control. I think Max Brantley of the Arkansas Times Blog was right to point out on 2-6-13 that Hillary […]

Great cartoon from Dan Mitchell’s blog on government moochers

I thought it was great when the Republican Congress and Bill Clinton put in welfare reform but now that has been done away with and no one has to work anymore it seems. In fact, over 40% of the USA is now on the government dole. What is going to happen when that figure gets over […]

Gun Control cartoon hits the internet

Again we have another shooting and the gun control bloggers are out again calling for more laws. I have written about this subject below  and on May 23, 2012, I even got a letter back from President Obama on the subject. Now some very interesting statistics below and a cartoon follows. (Since this just hit the […]

“You-Didn’t-Build-That” comment pictured in cartoons!!!

watch?v=llQUrko0Gqw] The federal government spends about 10% on roads and public goods but with the other money in the budget a lot of harm is done including excessive regulations on business. That makes Obama’s comment the other day look very silly. A Funny Look at Obama’s You-Didn’t-Build-That Comment July 28, 2012 by Dan Mitchell I made […]

Cartoons about Obama’s class warfare

I have written a lot about this in the past and sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh. Laughing at Obama’s Bumbling Class Warfare Agenda July 13, 2012 by Dan Mitchell We know that President Obama’s class-warfare agenda is bad economic policy. We know high tax rates undermine competitiveness. And we know tax increases […]

Cartoons on Obama’s budget math

Dan Mitchell Discussing Dishonest Budget Numbers with John Stossel Uploaded by danmitchellcato on Feb 11, 2012 No description available. ______________ Dan Mitchell of the Cato Institute has shown before how excessive spending at the federal level has increased in recent years. A Humorous Look at Obama’s Screwy Budget Math May 31, 2012 by Dan Mitchell I’ve […]

Funny cartoon from Dan Mitchell’s blog on Greece

Sometimes it is so crazy that you just have to laugh a little. The European Mess, Captured by a Cartoon June 22, 2012 by Dan Mitchell The self-inflicted economic crisis in Europe has generated some good humor, as you can see from these cartoons by Michael Ramirez and Chuck Asay. But for pure laughter, I don’t […]

Obama on creating jobs!!!!(Funny Cartoon)

Another great cartoon on President Obama’s efforts to create jobs!!! A Simple Lesson about Job Creation for Barack Obama December 7, 2011 by Dan Mitchell Even though leftist economists such as Paul Krugman and Larry Summers have admitted that unemployment insurance benefits are a recipe for more joblessness, the White House is arguing that Congress should […]

Get people off of government support and get them in the private market place!!!!(great cartoon too)

Dan Mitchell hits the nail on the head and sometimes it gets so sad that you just have to laugh at it like Conan does. In order to correct this mess we got to get people off of government support and get them in the private market place!!!! Chuck Asay’s New Cartoon Nicely Captures Mentality […]

2 cartoons illustrate the fate of socialism from the Cato Institute

Cato Institute scholar Dan Mitchell is right about Greece and the fate of socialism: Two Pictures that Perfectly Capture the Rise and Fall of the Welfare State July 15, 2011 by Dan Mitchell In my speeches, especially when talking about the fiscal crisis in Europe (or the future fiscal crisis in America), I often warn that […]

Cartoon demonstrates that guns deter criminals

John Stossel report “Myth: Gun Control Reduces Crime Sheriff Tommy Robinson tried what he called “Robinson roulette” from 1980 to 1984 in Central Arkansas where he would put some of his men in some stores in the back room with guns and the number of robberies in stores sank. I got this from Dan Mitchell’s […]

Gun control posters from Dan Mitchell’s blog Part 2

I have put up lots of cartons and posters from Dan Mitchell’s blog before and they have got lots of hits before. Many of them have dealt with the economy, eternal unemployment benefits, socialism,  Greece,  welfare state or on gun control. Amusing Gun Control Picture – Circa 1999 April 3, 2010 by Dan Mitchell Dug this gem out […]

We got to cut spending and stop raising the debt ceiling!!!

  We got to cut spending and stop raising the debt ceiling!!! When Governments Cut Spending Uploaded on Sep 28, 2011 Do governments ever cut spending? According to Dr. Stephen Davies, there are historical examples of government spending cuts in Canada, New Zealand, Sweden, and America. In these cases, despite popular belief, the government spending […]

Gun control posters from Dan Mitchell’s blog Part 1

I have put up lots of cartons and posters from Dan Mitchell’s blog before and they have got lots of hits before. Many of them have dealt with the economy, eternal unemployment benefits, socialism,  Greece,  welfare state or on gun control. On 2-6-13 the Arkansas Times Blogger “Sound Policy” suggested,  “All churches that wish to allow concealed […]

Taking on Ark Times bloggers on the issue of “gun control” (Part 3) “Did Hitler advocate gun control?”

Gun Free Zones???? Stalin and gun control On 1-31-13 ”Arkie” on the Arkansas Times Blog the following: “Remember that the biggest gun control advocate was Hitler and every other tyrant that every lived.” Except that under Hitler, Germany liberalized its gun control laws. __________ After reading the link  from Wikipedia that Arkie provided then I responded: […]

Taking on Ark Times bloggers on the issue of “gun control” (Part 2) “Did Hitler advocate gun control?”

On 1-31-13 I posted on the Arkansas Times Blog the following: I like the poster of the lady holding the rifle and next to her are these words: I am compensating for being smaller and weaker than more violent criminals. __________ Then I gave a link to this poster below: On 1-31-13 also I posted […]