Sen. Rand Paul clashes with ABC’s Stephanopoulos: ‘You’re forgetting who you are as a journalist!’

Sen. Rand Paul clashes with ABC’s Stephanopoulos: ‘You’re forgetting who you are as a journalist!’

‘You’re inserting yourself into the story,’ the senator accused the ABC anchor

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky. had a fiery exchange with ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos on Sunday over the challenge to the 2020 presidential election with the top GOP lawmaker questioning the anchor’s journalistic integrity.

Stephanopoulos began the contentious interview by asking Paul if he accepts the “fact” that the “election was not stolen.” Paul responded by insisting that the “debate” over voter fraud should occur and acknowledged how evidence from various claims was never examined since legal cases were “thrown out” by the courts.

While Paul listed off various irregularities that could be challenged or overturned by the Supreme Court, including secretaries of state unilaterally changing election laws by skipping the legislative process, Stephanopoulos had enough

“Senator Paul, I have to stop you there,” Stephanopoulos interrupted. “No election is perfect but there were 86 challenges filed by President Trump and his allies in court, all were dismissed… The Department of Justice led by William Barr said there was no widespread evidence of fraud. Can’t you just say the words, ‘This election was not stolen?'”

“What I would suggest is if we want greater confidence in our elections and 75 percent of Republicans agree with me is that we do need to look into election integrity and do need to see if we can restore confidence in the elections,” Paul doubled down.

“Well, 75 percent of Republicans agree with you because they were fed a big lie by President Trump and his supporters to say that the election was stolen,” Stephanopoulos fired back.

“George, where you make the mistake is that people coming from the liberal side like you, you immediately say everything’s a lie instead of saying there are two sides to everything,” Paul told the anchor. “Historically what would happen is if I said that I thought there was fraud, you would interview someone who said there wasn’t, but now you insert yourself in the middle and say that the absolute fact is that everything I’m saying is a lie without examining the facts.”

After Stephanopoulos erupted at Paul to reitterate President Trump’s claim that the election was “stolen,” the senator shot back.

“You say we’re all liars, you’re just simply saying we’re all liars,” Paul accused Stephanopoulos. “There has been no examination, thorough examination of all the states to see what problems we had and see if we can fix them. Now let me say, to be clear, I voted to certify the state electors because I think it would be wrong for Congress to overturn that, but at the same time, I’m not willing just to sit here and say ‘Oh, everybody on the Republican side is a liar and there is no fraud.’ No, there were lots of problems and there were secretaries of state who illegally changed the law and that needs to be fixed and I’m going to work hard to fix it.”

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“I won’t be cowed by people who say, ‘Oh, you’re a liar.’ That’s the problem with the media today is that they say all Republicans are liars and everything we say is a lie. There are two sides to every story. Interview somebody on the other side, but don’t insert yourself into the story to say we’re all liars because we knew there was some fraud in the election,” Paul continued.

“There are not two sides to the story,” Stephanopoulos pushed back. “This has been looked at in every state and it was certified in every state.”

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“You’re forgetting who you are! You are forgetting who you are as a journalist if you think there’s only one side!” Paul exclaimed. “You’re inserting yourself into the story to say that I’m a liar because I want to look at election fraud and I want to look at secretaries of state who illegally changed the voter laws without the permission of their state legislatures. That is incontroverible. It happened. And you can’t just sweep that under the rug and say oh nothing to see here and everybody’s a liar and you’re a fool if you bring this up! You’re inserting yourself into the story. A journalist would hear both sides and there are two sides to this story.”

The ABC anchor insisted he was “standing by facts” and that there are “no two sides to facts.”

Like Milton Friedman Rand Paul is standing against other Republicans who want to add to government overspending!!!

Milton Friedman – A Limit On Spending

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Rand Paul Defects on Proposed Health Law Repeal

Republican senator says measure to begin process of repealing Affordable Care Act adds too much to federal budget deficit

Sen. Rand Paul, shown at an event on Oct. 27, says the Republicans’ measure to begin repealing the Affordable Care Act would add $9.7 trillion in debt over 10 years to the federal budget.ENLARGE
Sen. Rand Paul, shown at an event on Oct. 27, says the Republicans’ measure to begin repealing the Affordable Care Act would add $9.7 trillion in debt over 10 years to the federal budget. PHOTO: TIMOTHY D. EASLEY/ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON—Sen. Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Wednesday that he would oppose the budget measure Republicans are counting on to begin the process of repealing the Affordable Care Act, leaving the effort in danger of derailing if any other GOP senators defect.

The Senate on Wednesday took its first procedural vote on the budget measure, a vehicle that Republicans can use to repeal the 2010 health-care law with a simple majority vote. Republicans now hold only 52 seats in the Senate, where most legislation needs 60 votes to pass.

Mr. Paul said Wednesday he would vote against the budget measure because it adds too much to the federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2017.

“I’m a no,” he said in a brief interview. “It adds $9.7 trillion in debt over 10 years.”

Other Senate Republicans, including Susan Collins of Maine and Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee, have voiced concerns about repealing the health-care law before the GOP has settled on a plan to replace it. However, all three voted to advance the budget in an early procedural vote Wednesday, which passed 51-48, allowing the Senate to consider the measure.

Mr. Paul was the only Republican to join the entire Democratic caucus in voting not to move forward with the budget blueprint. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) didn’t vote.

Other senators could still raise objections ahead of the final vote—on either the plan to repeal the health-care law or on the budget itself.

Aware of the razor-thin margins, GOP Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas, Mike Lee of Utah and Marco Rubio of Florida wrote Tuesday in a joint letter to GOP Senate leaders that while they understood the budget was “primarily a mechanism to advance [the health law’s] repeal,” the Senate should still abstain from any budget devices that they oppose.

“Our votes in favor of the ‘Obamacare Repeal Resolution’ do not indicate in any way our support for the revenue, spending, and deficit numbers therein, nor for the use of those numbers as the basis for future federal budgets,” the three senators wrote, using the GOP nickname for the budget blueprint.

The next fiscal year’s budget, expected to pass this spring and help Republicans overhaul the tax code, must balance the federal budget in 10 years, they wrote.

Budget blueprints are nonbinding documents used by political parties to signal how they think federal dollars should be spent. The budget document introduced in the Senate Tuesday also starts the process of repealing the health-care law.

The Senate’s budget resolution directs four relevant committees, two in the Senate and two in the House, to write legislation by Jan. 27 that reconciles spending and tax policy with the budget blueprint for the coming fiscal year. Embedded in the committees’ legislation will be provisions that repeal much of the health law.

Democrats, who have paid a heavy political price for the health law’s unpopularity, said Republicans will now bear responsibility for any attempts to gut and replace it.

“Now, they’re gonna own it, and all the problems in the health-care system are going to be on their backs,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) said Wednesday.

Write to Kristina Peterson at kristina.peterson@wsj.com and Siobhan Hughes at siobhan.hughes@wsj.com

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