Taking on Ark Times Bloggers on various issues Part Q “Three Ark Times bloggers take pro-life postion” (includes film DEATH BY SOMEONE’S CHOICE) (editorial cartoon)

 

I have gone back and forth and back and forth with many liberals on the Arkansas Times Blog on many issues such as abortion, human rights, welfare, poverty, gun control  and issues dealing with popular culture. Here is another exchange I had with them a while back. My username at the Ark Times Blog is Saline Republican.

On 2-28-13 I posted this on the Ark Times Blog:

Anything the government to limit abortion is a good thing.

The person using the username “Liberal Republican” wrote:

I am a liberal Republican who supports gay marriage, opposes huge tax cuts for the wealthy, and opposes cuts in basic services for poor people. Having said that abortion is one of the main reasons that I stay in the Republican Party. I firmly believe that any nation that chooses to allow their unborn children to be killed so women can have a “Choice” are no better than the Nazi’s. I am disgusted by the caviler way that you talk about life and how self centered you are about your own selfish desires.

Another pro-life stepped forward when Stephen Anthony Lafferty wrote:

Prayer and good intentions have helped pass a bill that make me more comfortable.

Indian Vedic philosophy teaches that the body is infused with a soul at the 120th day of pregnancy. This bill protects life starting at the 140th day (20th week).

“It is a great poverty to kill an unborn child so you may live as you wish.” ~ Mother Teresa of Calcutta, India

Because sometimes the truth is worth repeating.

Arhogfan501 commented:

Time has come for people to start taking personal responsibility for their sex lives. Use a condom or pop a pill. The days of selfish, recreational abortions are coming to an end. Two choices. Take responsibility for the baby you produced or adoption.

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I couldn’t agree more with these last three bloggers concerning their respect for the rights of the unborn children in the USA to be born.

Francis Schaeffer: 25 years after

Two books examine Schaeffer and his influence

By David Daniels  |  ChristianWeek Columnist

Two books published in time for the 25-year anniversary of the death of Francis Schaeffer remind us of the profound influence he left on 20th-century evangelicalism–an influence evident in the work of many privileged to sit under his teaching.

Francis Schaeffer: An Authentic Life (Crossway Books, 2008), by Colin Duriez, is a full-length biography. Duriez studied for several months with Schaeffer prior to studying English and philosophy at the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland.

Duriez tracks Schaeffer’s life from his humble working-class home in Germantown, Pennsylvania, through his conversion and call to pastoral ministry within separatist fundamentalism. He follows the broadening of Schaeffer’s ministry base through the work of L’Abri, his crisis of faith and his subsequent return to America where he became a key figure in the social issues of his day.

Duriez portrays a man wholly committed to God with a passion to show that Christianity is a thoroughly reasonable faith.

In his preface, Duriez comments on the recent publication of Crazy for God (Da Capo Press, 2007), the “confessional memoir” of Frank Schaeffer, son of Francis and Edith Schaeffer. He challenges Frank’s portrayal of his father’s “façade of conviction about his faith.” Duriez contends that Francis Schaeffer “did not divorce his inner and public life.”

Os Guiness and others concur, having publicly refuted Frank Schaeffer’s harsh assessment of his own father.
In addition to extensive interviews with those who knew Francis Schaeffer well, Duriez enjoyed full access to Edith’s Schaeffer’s family records, L’Abri history and unpublished family letters. The inclusion of 28 pictures provides a welcome visual to a gripping story of an authentic life lived for God’s glory. The book concludes with an interview Duriez conducted with Francis Schaeffer on September 30, 1980.

If you are familiar with his writings, you will enjoy this finely crafted biography that Alister E. McGrath says effectively mingles “personal memories and theological analysis.”

An absorbing portrait

Francis Schaeffer and the Shaping of Evangelical America (Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 2008), by Barry Hankins, professor of history at Baylor University, is an absorbing study of Schaeffer providing valuable insight into how he was perceived by other intellectual Christians then and now.

Hankins paints a sympathetic picture of a man who did not always get it right.

While Hankins records significant life events in the Schaeffer family, the heart of this study is a critical analysis of Schaeffer’s work. Tracing Schaeffer’s beginnings as a pastor in America, Hankins skillfully maps the gradual move from American fundamentalist bent on finding every vestige of doctrinal compromise, to European evangelical intent on equipping Christians to effectively engage the cultural questions of their day, to social crusader calling America’s evangelicals to rise up and reclaim Christian America.

Hankins rightly observes that, had Schaeffer not moved to Europe, he would likely have remained an unknown pastor mired in the swamp of separationist fundamentalism (my term, not Hankins’).

In God’s providence, Schaeffer’s move to Europe–a move aimed at organizing continental fundamentalists and conducting child evangelism, drew him into contact with men like Hans Rookmaker–a friendship that encouraged Schaeffer’s move toward exploring Christianity’s interface with culture. It was a move that catapulted Schaeffer into an international ministry of helping young Christians wrestle through their philosophical questions about God and truth.

Hankins organizes Schaeffer’s work into three broad categories: his fundamentalist beginnings in America, his broadening evangelicalism and engagement with culture in Europe, and his return to America with its subsequent return to a strident fundamentalist engagement with the social questions of the day. Whatever one’s view of Schaeffer’s work, he profoundly influenced the way evangelicalism relates to the world around it.

Hankins notes that much of Schaeffer’s writing does not readily address the cultural questions of today, but observes that Schaeffer understood his own times, learning how to effectively capture a generation for Christianity.

Whereas Duriez was afforded liberal access to the Schaeffer family and papers, Hankins notes that “members of the Schaeffer family were unwilling to be interviewed” for his book. He does not tell us why. Despite this restriction, Hankins has provided a thoroughly satisfying study of the man who, perhaps more than any other, was used by God to bring evangelicals into the public square.

Read together, these books provide a complete account of the man behind the books, lectures and films, providing a valuable assessment of his continuing impact on evangelical Christianity. I highly recommend them both.

David Daniels is book reviews coordinator for ChristianWeek and directs the work of New Covenant House at the Toronto Jewish Mission.

I truly believe that many of the problems we have today in the USA are due to the advancement of humanism in the last few decades in our society. Ronald Reagan appointed the evangelical Dr. C. Everett Koop to the position of Surgeon General in his administration. He partnered with Dr. Francis Schaeffer in making the video below. It is very valuable information for Christians to have.  Actually I have included a video below that includes comments from him on this subject.

In the film series “WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE HUMAN RACE?” the arguments are presented  against abortion (Episode 1),  infanticide (Episode 2),   euthenasia (Episode 3), and then there is a discussion of the Christian versus Humanist worldview concerning the issue of “the basis for human dignity” in Episode 4 and then in the last episode a close look at the truth claims of the Bible

Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 3) DEATH BY SOMEONE’S CHOICE

Published on Oct 6, 2012 by

Good pro-life cartoon below:

Dr. C. Everett Koop pictured above.

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Francis Schaeffer: “Whatever Happened to the Human Race” (Episode 1) ABORTION OF THE HUMAN RACE

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