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Below are some reactions of evangelical leaders to the news of Christopher Hitchens’ death:
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Author and speaker Christopher Hitchens, a leader of an aggressive form of atheism that eventually was dubbed “New Atheism,” died Thursday from pneumonia, a complication of his oesophageal cancer. He was 62.
Hitchens’ interests were varied and he wrote extensively about politics, but it was his outspoken, confrontational words on God’s existence that caught the attention of the Christian community. Hitchens and other members of the New Atheism movement — such as Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris — went beyond the centuries-old arguments against God and religion. Hitchens wasn’t simply arguing against God’s existence; he said that the world’s greatest problems were caused by religion. Society, he argued, should cleanse itself of all religious beliefs. Hitchens’ most famous book on the subject summed up his thoughts in the title: “God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.”
He once said of families who raise their children to believe in God: “How can we ever know how many children had their psychological and physical lives irreparably maimed by the compulsory inculcation of faith?”
He wrote that religion was “violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children.”
Hitchens, who had dual British and U.S. citizenship, regularly took part in debates over God’s existence. For example, in November 2010 he debated Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary professor William Dembski and in April 2009 he sparred with Christian apologist William Lane Craig.
After Hitchens’ death, Christian leaders were mostly gracious in their response….
Pastor and author Douglas Wilson, who participated in a series of written debates with Hitchens over God’s existence that were put in book form, wrote a tribute to Hitchens at ChristianityToday.com.
“Christopher knew that faithful Christians believe that it is appointed to man once to die, and after that the Judgment,” Wilson wrote. “He knew that we believe what Jesus taught about the reality of damnation. He also knew that we believe — for I told him — that in this life, the door of repentance is always open.”
But Hitchens tried to explain away any potential death-bed conversion, Wilson said.
“Christopher was worried about this, and was afraid of letting down the infidel team,” Wilson wrote. “In a number of interviews during the course of his cancer treatments, he discussed the prospect of a ‘death bed’ conversion, and it was clear that he was concerned about the prospect. But, he assured interviewers, if anything like that ever happened, we should all be certain that the cancer or the chemo or something had gotten to his brain.”
After Hitchens died, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President R. Albert Mohler Jr. also commented, saying in a Tweet: “The death tonight of Christopher Hitchens is an excruciating reminder of the consequences of unbelief. We can only pray others will believe.” Mohler added, “The point about Christopher Hitchens is not that he died of unbelief, but that his unbelief is all that matters now. Unspeakably sad.”
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So from his point of view, who gets to decide what things are truly evil and truly good?
Posted by: Jeremy Melberg | April 06, 2009 at 08:42 AM
does anyone have a link to the debate? I can’t find it anywhere.
Posted by: Chris Scott | April 06, 2009 at 09:00 AM
I don’t think you really have to be able to explain a thing exhaustively to believe it. Before Newton people knew that if you jumped off a cliff you’d fall, and you might die. They didn’t understand gravitation, but that’s OK. It’s still a fact.
That’s kind of how I view morality. It’s a complex topic. It’s like numbers and logic in some ways. It seems to simply be in the nature of things. People write whole books on the topic and it’s hard to figure out who’s right. For example there’s a book with Jean Pierre-Changeux and Alain Connes on the nature of mind, matter, and mathematics. Changeux, the neurobiologist, believes numbers are nothing but projections of the human mind, whereas Connes, the mathematician, sees them as existing independently of minds. It’s a difficult question, but regardless I’m still going to use math to balance my checkbook.
The Christian sees that this is a difficult problem to resolve, so he sees an opportunity. Since we don’t have answers (right now) this is a perfect place to rush in and insert God as the explanation, since God explains everything. Well, yeah, he does. Is that really helpful?
I like to call radio shows sometimes. I’ve spoken with Greg a couple of times. I speak with a guy named Bob Dutko in Detroit. He claims that Christianity is backed up by “science, logic, and intellectual reasoning.” He’s a young earth creationist. One time I spoke with him about how certain virus sequences common to humans and chimpanzees show that we share a common ancestor. He replies “I have no problem with God inserting certain genetic sequences between humans and animals. Similar design, similar designer.”
I wanted to say (but didn’t get a chance) that of course you have no problem. You have no problem if the sequences are similar. God did it. You have no problem if the sequences are different. God did it that way. You have no problem with fossil evidence indicating intermediarries. God made a unique creature that way. You have no problem if there are no intermediarries. God didn’t make them. It doesn’t matter what is observed. God is consistent with all of it. He explains everything. He can explain lightning, meteorites, genetic similarities with humans and chimps. God explains morality, numbers, logic. He’s the universal all explaining entity. But with a track record so poor (what was long thought to only be explainable with God no longer is) I’m not just going to accept God as an explanation for morals. I’ll say for now I don’t know, and that’s OK.
Posted by: Jon | April 06, 2009 at 09:28 AM
Like all atheists who are smart enough to see the uselessness of moral relativism, Hitchens still must assume contradictions are reasonable to live with. How that is more noble than true relativism, i’m not sure. I guess my question to him would be…”why should I listen to anything you have to say?” I have an explanation for morality and it is backed up by what is observable. You sir…have have nothing more than your preference that you not be ultimately accountable. Any thinking person needs more than that, sorry.
Posted by: Frank Cory | April 06, 2009 at 09:45 AM
Why is it that many atheists and agnostics think Christians are arguing that if one cannot explain morality, then they cannot believe in a set of morals and live by them?
Posted by: Jesse | April 06, 2009 at 09:54 AM
If I was Craig, I might’ve asked Hitchens what it is he feels he has the freedom to do now that he would not be able to do if God exists. After all, Hitchens frequently makes the challenge that there is no moral a Christian can hold that an atheist couldn’t also hold.
Jon, you make “God” seems like an arbitrary explanation for anything we don’t understand, but I don’t think “God” is an arbitrary explanation for morals. It seems to me that morals MUST have their origin in a transcendent personal being who has authority over us.
Jesse, I’ve decided that in any debate where the moral argument for God comes up, it’s almost guaranteed that the atheist will not understand the argument or will misconstrue it somehow. And it doesn’t matter how many times they are corrected.
Posted by: Sam | April 06, 2009 at 10:31 AM
“Why is it that many atheists and agnostics think Christians are arguing that if one cannot explain morality, then they cannot believe in a set of morals and live by them?”
Jesse: Well put. I might take it a step further. As a Christian, I am inclined to believe that sane atheists must believe in a set of morals and (try to) live by them, even though they cannot explain their existence. The problem for them is in explaining it. And even atheists should admit that an objective universal morality, to the extent that it exists, is immaterial.
Posted by: Naturallawyer | April 06, 2009 at 10:33 AM
“It seems to me that morals MUST have their origin in a transcendent personal being who has authority over us.”
Exactly. A personal thing that is must be the source of these things we hold as Good. Abstract things do not exist of themselves. A number 12 doesnt actually exist even if there are 12 actual objects. Likewise, “good”, of itself, does not exist outside of a personal thing.
Posted by: Drew Carey Von Price Is | April 06, 2009 at 10:38 AM