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Recently I posted that I was saddened by the Saturday Night Live reckless skit on Tim Tebow that among other things endorsed Mormonism. In response, I gave several evidences from archaeology that disproved the Book of Mormon. Then I included a five part video series that showed the archaeological evidence that supported the historical accuracy of the Bible. (Archaeological evidence evidence against the Book of Mormon is abundant i.e., the lack of horses and iron swords in North America 2000 years ago), but arhaeological evidence supports the accuracy of the Bible.)
Here are the responses that I got and my responses to them:
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| Patrick obrainghaile@gmail.com 216.0.97.11 |
Submitted on 2011/12/23 at 12:25 pm
Why were you saddened? I doubt Jason Sudeikis’ proclamation of the truth of Mormonism is going to be that one missionary tool the LDS church was missing to really get things going. It was pretty clear to me the joke was meant to be absurd. South Park did the same thing when in one episode the director of Hell tells some newcomers the Mormons are the ones who get into heaven. What is really confusing is why so many people who are of Evangelical and Baptist faiths (to name a few) spend so much time and energy trying to debunk Mormonism. Why do they care so much? I would think there are many who need help far more than a group of people who appear to believe in Jesus Christ and try to emulate Him by living honest, moral lives. I would rather devote my time and energy making sure I understand and live my own faith. |
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andrew On December 20, 2011 at 11:57 am
was saddened that SNL proclaimed Mormonism true in a skit Saturday. The archaeological record is obvious that Joseph Smith was wrong in many of the details he put in the Book of Mormon and he assumed that the Indians in the North America had the same surroundings that the Jews did in the middle east 2000 years ago. Below I have proven beyond any doubt that the Book of Mormon is filled with errors.
Wow. Okay. Where do I begin to point out all of the fallacies here?
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Submitted on 2011/12/23 at 1:08 pm | In reply to Patrick.
To Patrick, I guess the reason Christians are spending so much time debunking the Book of Mormon is probably because of Mitt Romney who is soon to be our next president. Another reason may be because it is just too easy to do so. Basically Joseph Smith assumed that the same conditions existed in North America 2000 years ago as they did in the Middle East. That was a big mistake. For instance, there were no horses or iron swords in North America as there were in the Middle East at that time.
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Iam Thetruth On December 22, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Wow! Your ‘facts’ regarding events in the Book of Mormon are pulled out of thin air. Either you do not understand mathematics (and how to count) or you never read a single statements within the Book of Mormon.
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MissoMisso On December 23, 2011 at 12:24 am
It sure must be hard to have faith, huh? So we’ve gotta make sure we can back it up with “strict, hard, archaeological evidence.” Definitely. Otherwise, throw faith out the window, caus, uh, yeah, gotta have the proof. the hard proof. That’s what faith means, right???
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mr.j On December 23, 2011 at 12:27 am
faith/fāTH/
Noun:
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.….Wait what, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof?
Well what about the archaeological evidence?This is a Christian writing this blog? I guess not.
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RESPONDING TO “MissoMisso”:
I wanted to quote Mark Mittelberg on this since he has written so much about faith. Mark Mittelberg is an international speaker and bestselling author of Choosing Your Faith … In a World of Spiritual Options (Tyndale); Faith Path: Helping Friends Find Their Way to Christ (David C. Cook), and coauthor with Lee Strobel of The Unexpected Adventure (Zondervan) and with Bill Hybels of Becoming a Contagious Christian (Zondervan).
The evidential faith path, relies primarily on logic and evidence to show what should be believed. Even though logic and evidence can be ignored or misused, I believe these are two inescapable, God-given tools for determining what is true and trustworthy in the world around us.
First, logic. We can’t think, evaluate ideas, or make decisions without it. Yes, some will claim that they don’t trust logic-but they use logic to try to make their point. When people tell you they don’t trust reason just ask them why-and they’ll start giving you reasons against reason. Or sometimes they’ll say that our use of logic is “Western,” and therefore not accepted by the other half of the world that lives in the East. But as Indian-born apologist Ravi Zacharias says, “Even in India if you step out in front of a bus it will kill you!”
And need we argue for the importance of evidence, experienced through the five senses? All scientific research relies on it; it’s the foundational tool of our justice system; it’s what we use every day to figure out what is true.
Logic and evidence are inescapable-so we might as well employ them with excellence. More than that, the Bible-which is itself supported by reason and evidence-tells us to test truth claims using these tools, as I’ve been illustrating throughout this article. Jesus often pointed to the evidence to verify His claims, including fulfilled prophecies, miracles, His consistent character and sinless life, His role as the Messiah and His nature as the unique Son of God, and ultimately the supernatural exclamation point of His resurrection from the dead. He also warned us to examine the words and work of others who claim to be prophets, to see whether the evidence substantiates their claims.
Now, I’m not saying we can rely on our own intellects alone, or that humans have the capacity to figure out their way to God by themselves. God had to reveal Himself, and His Holy Spirit has to draw us to Him. Ultimately our faith and confidence needs to be in God and His wisdom-but logic and evidence help us and our friends in knowing which God to put our faith in and which book we can be confident is God’s revelation. -
Everette Hatcher III On December 23, 2011 at 8:45 am
RESPONSE TO “Iam”:
Not only are there many errors in the Book of Mormon concerning statements about the existence of horese and iron swords in North America 2000 years ago, but now when know that DNA evidence is offering a serious challenge to the Mormon claim that Native Americans are descended from Hebrew colonizers who came to the Americas around the time Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians hundreds of years before Christ.
It appears that both evidence from science and archaeology supporting the idea that the Book of Mormon was written by a fake who made it up all by himself.
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Yea right , Joseph Smith, with a third grade education wrote the book and had to have known names and places of the old world which were not in any text, write in a pattern unknown to him called chiamus, show the plates to others who turned against him but never denied that the Book of Mormon was true, and have none of his book contradict the bible and then he did this for what? money? no, poor all of his life, fame? no, hated persecuted, taken to trial 49 times and aquitted each time. Imprisoned, fed poison, houses burned, extermination order to kill all mormons in Missouri, and then be martyred for it all. no, and I testify it is all 100 % true. and proves the bible is true and that Jesus is the Christ. If you need evidence go to central and south america and see the civilization being unearthed which we know as the people and descendents of the Book of Mormon. Now go and read the Fate of the Prosecutors of Joseph Smith and be very careful how you speak of him. He has done more for the salvation of man than any other person other than the Savior himself.
The Book of Mormon is blindly accepted even though archaeology has disproven many of the facts that are claimed by it. For instance, wheels and chariots did not exist in North America when they said they did.
The Book of Mormon contains two accounts of chariots being used in the New World.[68]
Critics argue that there is no archaeological evidence to support the use of wheeled vehicles in Mesoamerica, especially since many parts of ancient Mesoamerica were not suitable for wheeled transport. Clark Wissler, the Curator of Ethnography at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, noted:
“…we see that the prevailing mode of land transport in the New World was by human carrier. The wheel was unknown in pre-Columbian times.”
A comparison of the South American Inca civilization to Mesoamerican civilizations shows the same lack of wheeled vehicles. Although the Incas used a vast network of paved roads (see Inca road system), these roads are so rough, steep, and narrow that they appear to be unsuitable for wheeled use. Bridges that the Inca people built, and even continue to use and maintain today in some remote areas, are straw-rope bridges so narrow (about 2–3 feet wide) that no wheeled vehicle can fit. Inca roads were used mainly by chaski message runners and llama caravans.