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Herman Cain tells Wall St marchers where to march

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The Arkansas Times Blog reported today:

Around 100 were on hand for tonight’s Occupy Little Rock planning meeting, the second since the group formed in Little Rock earlier this month. Organizers and attendees struggled with a somewhat complicated voting-by-hand-signals process, but the assembly did get some key points ironed out, including the start time and place for this Saturday’s march, and locations the group plans to picket.

Protestors with Occupy Little Rock will assemble this Saturday morning at 9 a.m. at Riverfest Amphitheater near the River Market. The march will begin at 10 a.m., with the group proceeding to the headquarters of Stephens Inc., the Little Rock branch of Bank of America, the U.S. Federal Building and the Arkansas State Capitol.

I heard Herman Cain’s speech and I noticed that re-directed the Wall St marchers where they should be marching.

Below is a great article on what the difference between the Tea Party and the Wall Street Marchers:

Tea Party, Meet Occupy Wall Street. OWS, Tea Party.

Posted by Jim Harper

Broad political movements are going to have none of the coherence that we demand of ourselves in ideological movements like libertarianism. The Tea Party has some people with views that libertarians and reject and many we embrace. Occupy Wall Street has a lot of people with views that libertarians reject and some that libertarians embrace—freedom from police abuse being one. (Such a favor the NYPD officer who pepper-sprayed female protesters did to OWS by driving attention and sympathy its way.)

That’s all caveat to sharing an image that’s making waves on the Facebook. It makes a hopeful statement, I think, about the Occupy Wall Street movement and its potential or actual kinship with Tea Partyism. There’s something wrong in the country, and this image suggests that there might be consensus on the framing of what’s wrong: the unity of government and corporate power against people’s freedom and prosperity.

There are plenty of reasons to reject the possibility of alliance between Tea Partyism and OWS, but not necessarily good ones. The easiest out is to pour this new wine into old bottles and characterize OWS as dirty hippies using retrograde protest tactics. Many are kinda like that. But that stuff was a couple of decades ago. No, wait—four decades ago. These kids have no direct knowledge or experience of, say, Kent State, and older observers might be too prone to fitting them into a pattern that doesn’t exist for them.

To the extent the substance of their grievance is, or can be turned to, corporations’ use of government power to win unjust power and profits for themselves, that’s a grievance I can sit in a drum circle for.

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Jim Lendall of “Let them Pay” Guillotine fame shows up at “Occupy Arkansas” group meeting

Left leaning blogs like Blue Arkansas have praised the “Occupy Arkansas” but I wonder if they know about some of the crazy things the leaders of this movement have said.

Jason Tolbert noted on October 7, 2011:

Max Brantley with the Arkansas Times reports on the efforts currently under way to organize an “Occupy Arkansas” protest.  He posts a video of their first meeting where it appears they have not yet figured out exactly what they want to protest.

“I am Adam and I am here because I have no idea what is going on and I want to understand why people are occupying Wall Street and other streets,” commented one of the participants.

I noticed one of the organizers in the video is the former Green Party nominee for Governor, Jim Lendall.

“Basically we are living under the wrong Golden Rule,” says Lendall on the video. “They believe that the Golden Rule is who has the gold rules. That’s not the Golden Rule. We want to get the right Golden Rule out there.”

You may recall Lendall for making news back in April when he stood on the steps of the state capitol at a “Make Them Pay Rally” and called for erecting guillotines.

Below this is from a previous post I did about Jim Lendall.

Dr. Francis Schaeffer examines the Revolutionary Age

Perhaps without knowing the deeper meaning that could be attached to his comparison, the liberal Jim Lendall compared his “Let them Pay” movement to the French Revolution.

Jason Tolbert wrote today:

A liberal group had a “Make Them Pay Rally” today on the steps of the Arkansas state capitol meant to counter the anti-tax Tea Party protest from April 15.  Around 30 people gathered hold signs that called for taxing the rich and eliminating what they felt are unfair special tax rules for corporations.

However, the rhetoric soon turned violent, much more so than any Tea Party rally I have ever attended.

“While whistling on their way to their offshore banks, (corporations) have destroyed more Americans than Al Qaeda,” said former state representative and 2010 Green Party Gubernatorial nominee Jim Lendall. “Corporations have become the fat aristocracy that dictates our government.”

“The French, inspired by our American Revolution, knew how to deal with the wealthy arrogant aristocrats. The French people built guillotines. Maybe we can park a guillotine in front of every chamber of commerce, corporate headquarters, bank, investment house, and Republican Party headquarters to remind them that democracy is about people not profits. We need to tell them in one clear voice, ‘no more greed’.”

Francis Schaeffer has rightly compared the French Revolution to the Communist take over of Russia and the American Revolution to the British Bloodless Revolution.

What was Enlightenment? Human-reason centered, basis of modernism (rejected by post-modernism).

Contrast the “Bloodless Revolution” with the horrible French Revolution [irony=secularists accuse religion of bloody persecution and intolerance. French Revolution was secular and had both!

The French desired a perfect society! (Utopia – remake the world.) How? By torture and killing! Crazy? Communists are still trying!

Key people of Enlightenment and French Revolution

Background for French Revolution:

Voltaire – saw church as source of problems, felt it should be crushed. He was impressed with England’s greater freedoms and felt France could do as well. A crucial difference:

England had Reformation base, France had Voltaire’s secular humanism, [the few French who were religious were deists].

Rousseau – felt people were naturally good and civilization produced evils. Talked of “noble savage” – need to get back to nature (like today!) and discover man’s original goodness. Need freedom from restraint, don’t suppress the person. Applications:

1. Social contract – government based on agreement of majority, others forced to agree.

2. Emile – book on permissive child rearing (his kids were real terrors – sent them away to orphanages.)

3. Education – little or none needed. Let child discover self and world, never force, letting the “beautiful flower bloom”. Still an influence today. [Planting without cultivating produces weeds!]

What was the French Revolution? (Enlightenment idealistically applied).

1789-1792 Key slogan “Liberty, equality, fraternity.” (brotherhood)

“Imagine”

Issued “Declaration of Rights of Man.” It stated the Supreme Being was the general will of the people (majority = God).

They worked on a constitution for 2 years, and felt they were beginning a new age (even new calendar – called 1792 “year one.”)

They proclaimed Reason as their goddess.

People were excited about this new world. Willing to do anything, even murder, to have the perfect society. This was secular humanism at its purest.

Result: “Reign of Terror” (1792-1794)

 

40,000 executed – many of them peasants. The bloodbath – distinct from other bloodbaths.

1. Desired to be perfect

2. Came from within, not outsiders

3. Terrible inflation also occurred

example – pound of candles

1790 – $.18 1795 – $8 1796 – $40

Anarchy reigned (Freedom without form)

Like just before Julius Caesar in Rome

Why did Napoleon take power?

By 1799 people had gotten their fill, and Napoleon takes charge.

Napoleon then took on the rest of Europe. He had read Machiavelli’s Prince and felt he could commit no crime. He was very brutal. He finally met his waterloo in Belgium.

(1815)

Similarities between French Revolution and Communist Revolution

Schaeffer compares communism with French Revolution and Napoleon.

1. Lenin took charge in Russia much as Napoleon took charge in France – when people get desperate enough, they’ll take a dictator.

Other examples: Hitler, Julius Caesar. It could happen again.

2. Communism is very repressive, stifling political and artistic freedom. Even allies have to be coerced. (Poland).

Communists say repression is temporary until utopia can be reached – yet there is no evidence of progress in that direction. Dictatorship appears to be permanent.

3. No ultimate basis for morality (right and wrong) – materialist base of communism is just as humanistic as French. Only have “arbitrary absolutes” no final basis for right and wrong.

How is Christianity different from both French Revolution and Communism?

Contrast N.T. Christianity – very positive government reform and great strides against injustice. (especially under Wesleyan revival).

Bible gives absolutes – standards of right and wrong. It shows the problems and why they exist (man’s fall and rebellion against God).

Is Christianity at all like Communism?

Sometimes Communism sounds very “Christian” – desirable goals of equality, justice, etc. Schaeffer elsewhere explains by saying Marxism is a Christian heresy – Karl Marx

borrowed some of the ideals of N.T.