The God Who is …Where? by John Fischer

The God Who is …Where? by John Fischer

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Episode VII – The Age of Non Reason

Dr. Schaeffer’s sweeping epic on the rise and decline of Western thought and Culture

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I love the works of Francis Schaeffer and I have been on the internet reading several blogs that talk about Schaeffer’s work and the work below   by John Fischer was really helpful. Schaeffer’s film series “How should we then live?  Wikipedia notes, “According to Schaeffer, How Should We Then Live traces Western history from Ancient Rome until the time of writing (1976) along three lines: the philosophic, scientific, and religious.[3] He also makes extensive references to art and architecture as a means of showing how these movements reflected changing patterns of thought through time. Schaeffer’s central premise is: when we base society on the Bible, on the infinite-personal God who is there and has spoken,[4] this provides an absolute by which we can conduct our lives and by which we can judge society.  Here are some posts I have done on this series: Francis Schaeffer’s “How should we then live?” Video and outline of episode 10 “Final Choices” episode 9 “The Age of Personal Peace and Affluence”episode 8 “The Age of Fragmentation”episode 7 “The Age of Non-Reason” episode 6 “The Scientific Age”  episode 5 “The Revolutionary Age” episode 4 “The Reformation” episode 3 “The Renaissance”episode 2 “The Middle Ages,”, and  episode 1 “The Roman Age,” .

In the film series “WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE HUMAN RACE?” the arguments are presented  against abortion (Episode 1),  infanticide (Episode 2),   euthanasia (Episode 3), and then there is a discussion of the Christian versus Humanist worldview concerning the issue of “the basis for human dignity” in Episode 4 and then in the last episode a close look at the truth claims of the Bible.

Francis Schaeffer

The God Who Is… Where?

A         Comparison of Two Book Titles and the Thirty Years that Separate Them

by John Fischer

I have always         considered myself fortunate to have been in the formative years of my         life when Francis Schaeffer was having his greatest impact on evangelical         Christianity. His visits to Wheaton College, two of which I witnessed         as a student there during the last half of the sixties, became the watermarks         of my college experience. It was during those visits that Schaeffer presented         the material that was to later become his most comprehensive philosophical         work, The God Who Is There.

Almost 30 years later, in an issue of Christianity Today that celebrated         Schaeffer’s influence in an article by Michael Hamilton, I noticed a coincidental         ad for a book by Bill Hybels, pastor of Willow Creek Community Church,         titled,The God You’re Looking For. The similarity of these titles made         their key differences stand out. Something about these two titles speaks         volumes about the way thinking has changed over the years that separate         their respective releases.

The God Who Is There Francis Schaeffer spoke to a generation that cared enough about the concept         of God to despair over its loss. In Schaeffer’s analysis, drug use, pornography,         existentialism and even madness were not merely sin and debauchery for         the fun of it, they were the logical conclusions of philosophical ideas         that had been crossing the ocean from Europe for decades and surfacing         in the works of American artists, writers and film makers. Piece by piece,         the old ways of thinking were being stripped away by philosophers and         theologians until God was nothing but a memory. And yet a memory was more         than nothing, and it was that memory of God and propositional truth that         Schaeffer was always seeking to retrieve.

Francis Schaeffer spoke to young people from families that still prayed         to God, in a nation that still pledged its allegiance under Him. Many         of these students made the long trek to L’Abri, Switzerland, to find if         there was any validity to their childhood beliefs about God and the meaning         of human existence. So when Schaeffer gave credibility to both, and even         a historical context as to why they had doubted God in the first place,         many were persuaded to believe.

Thirty years ago, it was enough to prove the existence of God and the         reliability of the scriptures. Belief would follow the evidence. The God         Who Is There assumes that people care enough to do something about God         should it prove to be a rational thing to believe in him.

Reading Schaeffer again today makes one long for such a mind-set. It also         makes despair seem almost attractive when compared to the moral relativism         and self-absorption that characterizes most of western culture in the         nineties. Would that people cared enough today to actually despair. Would         that truth meant enough for people to lament its absence. Would that proving         the rationality of the existence of God would assume the embracing of         that God as its logical consequence.

The God You’re Looking For We now live in a generation that lies beyond the rational boundaries of         Schaeffer’s day–even beyond despair. Hope is fantasy. Truth is whatever         anyone wants to make it. God is a concept to be used only when useful.         Religion is a preference. There is nothing beyond self to appeal to; only         the subjective desires and felt needs of human existence are left. The         God Who is There is about as relevant to today’s thought processes as         Francis Schaeffer’s knickers. Not that the truth is no longer true, it         is just that the postmodern mind does not possess the thought-forms necessary         to grasp truth as absolute. Announce the God “who is there”         today, and people will want to know which God you are talking about. On         which channel? Representing which ethnic group? Which religion? And if         he is “there”, just where is he? Is he out on video? And before         anything else, people would want to know what this God could do for them,         for whether God is or is not there, the operative question is, what can         belief in God do for me?

In this context, The God You’re Looking For is a fitting title. There         is simply no other way to address a postmodern mind except by way of the         expressed needs, longings and desires of people. And the churches who         are adopting this approach are currently finding much success. But in         doing so, are we not now facing a new dilemma for ministry?

Schaeffer himself has stated that each generation of the church “has         the responsibility of communicating the gospel in understandable terms,         considering the language and thought-forms of that setting.” [Escape         from Reason, p.94] But what if the language and thought-forms of a generation         are inept at holding the kind of belief systems necessary to sustain a         relationship with God over the long haul? Then we will have to teach people         to think in thought-forms that are foreign to them‹that are outside their         cultural experience. To some degree then, in teaching people how to follow         God, we must now teach them how to think all over again.

For instance, we keep hearing how the postmodern mind cannot grasp the         idea of absolutes. Well then, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure         out that the postmodern mind is incapable of grasping the idea of God.         Something has to give here: either the postmodern mind, or the God we         preach, and I don’t think God is very interested in making too many adjustments         in his nature or his character in deference to our inadequate minds. People,         in order to grow in their understanding and relationship with God, are         going to have to somehow graduate from a God they once met on one level,         to a God who demands they stretch their minds in order to meet him in         ways they have never thought of before.

Actually, this process is not unlike one common to all believers. We all         begin a relationship with God on a subjective level through our own personal         salvation. But our growth (or sanctification) is the process of discovering         that God does not exist for us; we exist for him. “True worshipers         will worship the Father in Spirit and truth (John 4:23)”–speaking         not of my truth, but of his truth to which I adjust myself and my thought         processes. New believers have come to God because he has met their need;         mature believers come to God regardless of their need. They come because         he is God and he is worthy of their worship and allegiance.

The Current Task If I am right about this, then the current task that faces the church         is a difficult one that poses some rather ticklish questions. Having convinced         people to embrace a God who is relevant and contemporary, will Christians         still love God when they find he can also be irrelevant and old and sometimes         difficult to follow? What do we do when the God who is there is not the         God anyone wants? Do we still preach him? Will we be tempted to continue         giving people a God they are looking for when the God who is there no         longer holds their interest?

One can readily see how addressing this generation with the truth about         God is a more formidable task than it was thirty years ago. If people         no longer have the thought-forms to grasp absolute truth, then we have         to teach and challenge them until God forms in them a new mind. “Do         not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed         by the renewing of your mind (Romans 12:2)” takes on new significance         in this regard. It will take a new mind to even believe.

In reality, both these titles are true and necessary. The God You’re Looking         For is a good way to start people thinking about God today, but at some         point, the God you are looking for has to become The God Who Is There–the         God who was there all along, and the God who will be there forever. He         is the absolute we will all eventually bump into, regardless of our ability         or inability to conceive of him. This is the God who deserves our praise         whether or not he fits our description or meets our needs. Somewhere in         me, I hear God saying to us all today, “If you are looking for God,         I am the God you get, because I am that I am.”

May we not shrink from telling the whole truth.

©1999 John Fischer, all rights reserved For more information and other articles by John Fischer visit http://www.fischtank.com.

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